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How to set up suspension for mountain riding

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I bought a hold over 2013 hcr 1100 turbo. Went to the mountains and it was really front heavy. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it. Psi front and rear shocks. I did buy sly dog 8" powder hound skies. Have not got to use them yet. I weight 180-185 lbs
 
Simple answer is to take weight off the front. Let limiter straps out, reduce pre-load on front rear shock, and reduce air pressure in rear shock so it collapses easier. Nice thing about the air pressure shock it is an easy in field adjustment. I would take note where each adjustment is before you change anything so you have a base line. Just to give you an idea I run 90 psi in rear with a m1000. Limiter all the way out and 1 .5 inches of thread on front pre load.

The next step is to move mounting in rear suspension.
 
evol shocks

Thanks for the suggestion. I have the factory float evol shocks on the front of my 2013 hcr. Does anyone know what kind of air pressure to run in the evol side and the shock side and what order to fill or delete pressure
 
Simple answer is to take weight off the front. Let limiter straps out, reduce pre-load on front rear shock, and reduce air pressure in rear shock so it collapses easier. Nice thing about the air pressure shock it is an easy in field adjustment. I would take note where each adjustment is before you change anything so you have a base line. Just to give you an idea I run 90 psi in rear with a m1000. Limiter all the way out and 1 .5 inches of thread on front pre load.

The next step is to move mounting in rear suspension.

No, you want to crank up the preload on the front shock for rear suspension. It will make the sled transfer faster and take weight off the front. It's not how I run my 800, but that's how to run it for less front end pressure.
 
No, you want to crank up the preload on the front shock for rear suspension. It will make the sled transfer faster and take weight off the front. It's not how I run my 800, but that's how to run it for less front end pressure.




Agree !:face-icon-small-hap
 
My 1100 is still a bit ski heavy also. Limiter straps all the way out, but seem 1 hole short?? Any body know if we can lengthen it by a hole or 2??? If i get a longer one of coarse. :doh:
 
M1100 t 162 shock Setup

I personally own 3 proclimbs 800 153 and 162 as well as 13 162m1100 t. Since I got my Turbo set up I rarely ride the others. FIRST Change the skis. I have SPL PP. I am 225 with gear.
Front shocks to 85 lbs. Try 1 or 2 lbs. either side depending on how bump compliant you want things. More air rougher but does not lean on the trail, less air smoother but leans on the corners.

Rear shock, skid. This is where weight comes in. I run mine @ 123-126 lbs.

The front shock on the skid is where you can really dial this sled and make it feel lighter. This shock preload can carry the weight of the motor and hide the heavy feeling. Spend some time here with great rewards. Everything works together.

Start with 85 lbs. on the ski shocks. 125lbs. in the rear shock of the skid and 10 threads showing on the front shock of the skid. Fine tune from this point.

Tips on dialing the front Shock preload of the skid...
This shock preload controls the centre of gravity of the sled..
More preload the sled becomes tippier and steering goes away.. You will push through the corners on the trail. This may be a desirable trait when Boondocking....
Less preload and you lower the centre of gravity and the sled becomes very heavy and hard to turn, darty, and very hard to lay over. It really shows its weight.
The best overall setup I have found is to ride a mile or so at a time and slowly turn up the preload on the front shock of the skid until your steering starts to go away (push through corners) then lower preload so the sled steers. You now have the maximum amount of weight off your skis and a light feel.

Advanced tuning tips...

skis... By having a more aggressive ski you can de weight the front end to feel light but still have steering bite.

Adjust throughout the day.... For boondocking crank up the preload on the front shock of the skid and it will be much easier to lay over. Re adjust for the trail ride home for steering.

I hope this helps you enjoy your M1100 t as much as I enjoy mine.
 
Great write up. I sometimes hear from guys the PP are too aggressive and feel heavy to steer. I have had PP's on my last 4 sleds, all 4s, and I set mine up the same way. With the deeper keel you can take more weight with the front rear shock and still maintain a nice control. Really helps to hide the weight as you mention.

Most riders don't spend enough time learning how the suspension adjustments they have change how the sled handles. There is a lot of playing to do when you take the time, especially on a 4s.
 
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