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Hostile Work Environment?? Need help guys

Fosgate

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I was formerly in management and hostile work environment is a big deal as it violates the 1964 Civil Rights Act. My girlfriend is currently in a hostile environment. Her manager reprimanded her in front of a Human Resources Rep and HR trainee in inappropriate fashion. Her manager is ineffective and lets one of my girlfriends peers basically run the team as she observes and other managers point out this woman runs the show yet she has no official title. This is an ongoing thing for a couple years and people approach my girlfriend and comment how horrible the 2 on her team treat her and they are suprised she is still there. There have been 5 people that have left the same position in rapid succession before my girlfriend was hired for it. She withdraws from the group because it seems that the 2 hyena's attack her at any opportunity. She has spoken to HR in the past about how she doesn't feel she is fitting in. I advised her to start documenting what is said, date and time and who was present, because without evidence or people to back up your statement it's just finger pointing. And these two are crafty enough to not put their snyd remarks and comments in writing like an e-mail. She has been told that the peer keeps a written record and in the past has gone to HR and gotten people fired.

It came to a head the last couple weeks, daughter and her both went down with sickness for a week and at the end of the week her father passed away. She did some work from home while planning the funeral as she was his only daughter it was up to her to plan. Yet she was still sick when everything was done with the funeral and it was another 5 days out of the office. When she went back she was questioned why some things were not done, the perception is that she is not doing anything and that she should not miss so much work, 3 days berevement is enough amongst other inappropriate comments. She spoke with her manager and she told her that she just needs to get thicker skin. And now she once again is out with Bronchitis.

It is obvious to me that the peer is creating a hostile work environment and the manager is to dumb to see it or lets it happen. I'm telling her to protect herself she needs to go into this meeting with a recorder on her and secretly tape it. If she does not she is rolling over and taking what they have in store for her and the bullying will continue. And if they fall on their swords in the meeting she simply needs to take the recording with her documentation to HR and give them the opportunity to handle it. I'm also telling her to be prepared to contact the 3rd party vendors they do work for and try to solicit your services to them if the worst happens. She is not wanting to do any of it because she does not feel confidence in the system. I keep telling her that she would be treated with kids gloves IF she has the evidence to back it up. She keeps acting like an abused woman commenting how maybe she deserved it and brought it upon herself etc. She made the comment this morning that she do what I recommended and simply go to HR and tell them to go ahead and terminate her on sufficient grounds so that she can get unemplyment while she finds new work and she wont persue hostile work environment. That is unacceptable to me, since it lets them off and she gets kicked down the road. She is so scared they will simply fire her later for some BS reason as recourse, but she will not listen. I think she needs to set her nail in the coffin for evidence and stop putting it off and give these ****ers the horns. Give them the opportunity to work it out and behind the scenes be prepared to leave and take a shatload of their business with her.

Does anyone know of any videos or links that I can have her review online that may convince her to not let this thing go? Also any other ideas how to handle this would be appreciated.
 
What type of organization does she work in, large, small? How is management tiered? Since SD is a right to work state, an employer can fire you without reasoning, however, I believe if it can be proven that a termination was a result of bias opinions from co-workers, a wrongful termination suit could be filled. When I was a manager in MN (not a right to work state) we had to have every I dotted and every T crossed, because if we didn’t, we knew that it would come back and bite us in the a*s. Almost every person we let go because of performance issues (not the case here) came back at us with a wrongful termination suit, and every time we had to produce the file that showed records of attendance, performance, warnings (all signed by employee), and what policy was broken to cause the firing. More than once, paperwork was lost or not filled and the person we fired because they showed up 20 minutes late everyday hung over won a sum of money because we didn’t have everything documented.
I would tell her the last thing she should do is throw in the towel and look for a new job, the company has some bad apples and hopefully someone in the organization will see that with the proper evidence, and if they have any sense at all, will terminate that person so the organization can run more efficiently. Do other people see her frustration and agree/comment on the people in question?
Just so I am getting this right, her boss is a egotistical control freak that feels empowered to embarrass subordinates to flex their “management” muscles, rather than dealing with possible issues appropriately? Where is the training, where is the coaching? Sounds like a piss poor manager to me…this isn’t boot camp. If I was the CEO or VP I would want that person out of that position (or my company) ASAP. On top of her manager, she has a co-worker that likes to bully and runs the show because said manager is either too blind/stupid to see what’s going on?
If this is the case, she needs to find out who she can trust, get a petition going(if others agree), and bring it to her manager’s boss’s attention, or maybe even that person’s manager’s attention. This can be done anonymously. She also needs to document everything that is not professional and does not adhere to company standards. Last, she needs to go to work with a positive attitude, keep her head up, be professional, not let it bring her down. If she does bring things to her managers attention, she needs to be professional and have her facts laid out in front of her and be confident in herself, if she comes off as an annoying whiner, she will be taking steps in the wrong direction (this shouldn’t happen but it does).
If the above doesn’t solve anything, it might be time to get a third party involved, and that part of it I know nothing about. This is just a few things I can think of, I am by no means an expert, but I have had to deal with some BS myself as well as what I dealt with being a manager. Being 25, 3 years out of college, and holding a quality engineering management roll in a company that does close to $1billion in annual sales with no formal quality system in place as I was hired on, I had to overcome some jealousy (trying not to toot my own horn). I had a lot of mid 50 year olds with 15 years experience in the company want my position, one of them which now sits about 10 feet away from me. I still can’t get that guy to smile. Last thing I would say is, if she does look for a new job, she may not want to drag that past with her. If an interested employer ask her why she left her previous roll, it would be better to say that she was looking for a change of pace, new opportunities, and new challenges, rather than get into that conversation about poor management and not getting along with co-workers.
 
I would try going up another level. If that is not possible or does not produce the desired results, find another job while dealing with their crap. Why fight to work with people you hate? If she really loves the job and there are good people in the organization, than it might be worth fighting. But even if she wins the battle, the people making her life miserable will redouble their efforts. If you decide to cross azzhats like that you better be prepared to go to full scale war, and it does not sound like she has the stomach for that.
 
Firsts things first.
It doesn't really matter what size the company is.
If she can't go up the ladder, then she needs to get a corporate lawyer and have a pow-wow.
Take her notes (that was a VERY good suggestion) and any witness statements along with any statements from the ladies that left that positions.
She may very well have a case.
If you want to fight it, be prepared for a fight.
otherwise, it is time to move on.

Definition of hostile work enviroment

http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/harass/DEFN.HTM

http://employeeissues.com/hostile_work_environment.htm

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-hostile-work-environment.htm

Proving hostile work enviroment

http://www.ehow.com/how_2342936_prove-hostile-work-environment.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3495/is_6_49/ai_n6078114/

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Human-Resources-2866/2008/5/Hostile-Work-Enviornment-retribution.htm

Hope that helps.
 
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Thanks Zach and Ollie, you guys rock. Its actually a large local organization. Over the course of the day I convinced her about an hour ago to go on the offensive. She has a meeting on Friday morning to go over projects with the two offenders. I'm coaching her on controlling the conversation to unroll it delicatly and keep them answering her questions by making her stated concerns by formulating a second part question for them to answer. They are arrogant enough when they are together that they will fall on their own swords if we play our cards right. I'm thinking after the meeting she needs to carry on with her day as if nothing happened and then verify the recording is ok and then goto HR with her complaint. We'll review the links you provided Ollie, and thanks again! :)
 
Thanks Zach and Ollie, you guys rock. Its actually a large local organization. Over the course of the day I convinced her about an hour ago to go on the offensive. She has a meeting on Friday morning to go over projects with the two offenders. I'm coaching her on controlling the conversation to unroll it delicatly and keep them answering her questions by making her stated concerns by formulating a second part question for them to answer. They are arrogant enough when they are together that they will fall on their own swords if we play our cards right. I'm thinking after the meeting she needs to carry on with her day as if nothing happened and then verify the recording is ok and then goto HR with her complaint. We'll review the links you provided Ollie, and thanks again! :)

Fosgate,
I also live in Sioux Falls, If you dont mind me asking....who is the company? PM me if you dont want to make it public.
 
My wife had the same problem. teacher, Principal crap.

told her to take a digital recorder everywhere, tape all conversations with the prick. make sure they see it. the crap stopped quietly if they know that it is being recorded they will keep their mouths shut (the recorder doesn't even have to be on). told her to use the excuse that, she wanted to get it right, and not forget what was discussed.

PS it works in police work also! (hint ,hint)
 
I have seen this happen to the point of a guy getting physicaly sick since he was so worried about the next step at work and how to deal with it. It was always HIM-vs-COMPANY in every aspect. They woud do something and he would secretly retaliate. He wouldnt do anything beyond his job description, you could never call him on the phone the topic would ALWAYS be about this mgr did this and i did that..I won the battle or whatever. There is a point to this btw and what I am trying to point out is you never really ever resolve work hostility specially if your a subordenate (sp). It just continues to fester until you finally move on. Once you do move on (find new job) your life will be much easier than fighting this.
In my personal experience I have seen this in a mid level blue collar job (sears electronics tech) and I have seen this in a large company white collar job (Gallup) director position. And BOTH had same result in the end with a long story in the middle.
They work somewhere else now and couldnt be happier.
 
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