HELP - 2002 Summit 800 No Worky Crank???

[mac]

Not my machine, but a buddy's - however I had the joy of pulling him out this last weekend, but no complaints cuz I'd want the same favor.

We stopped to take a break and drink some wings and he shut his machine off and thinks he heard a different small squeak right when it stopped but nothing harsh, clunky, or nasty sounding.

When he went to start it, the pull rope just pulled and didn't seem to grab anything. After some thoughts and probably some words we decided to just start it off the primary. Wrapped the rope and gave her a pull and it just spun way to easy. I was standing there then and the primary would just spin freely in both directions not turning the engine at all.

So - I've not owned a Ski Doo till last year and this but logic would tell me there might be a keyway or other attachment either inside or outside the block that mechanically fastens the clutch to the crank.

Is that at all correct?

What are some other ideas?

We are gonna kinda tear into a bit more tonight in the warmth of the shop and I thought I ask for something to pay attention to or look for when we do that tonight.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

[hymark860]

If the clutch spins freely you have a broken crank. The clutch fits on the taper of the crank stub. No keyways.

 

[mac]

thanks - not good news then especially when I think he paid less for the sled then it will cost to redo the bottom end and whatever else is found in the process.

 

[Ox]

Rode up and shut it off, recoil spins free, AND the primary spins free?

I would hafta say that's all impossible, but I have bought too many machines that had more than one catastrophic issue at once. ???

"Swing low, Sweet Chariot...."

 

[RideCo]

Rode up and shut it off, recoil spins free, AND the primary spins free?

I would hafta say that's all impossible, but I have bought too many machines that had more than one catastrophic issue at once. ???

"Swing low, Sweet Chariot...."

^^^ really? If there is nothing on either side you have major problems.

 

[mac]

I talked to him this morning cuz we couldn't get schedules together to work on it last night and he said that he did get compression strokes from turning the primary last night but still nothing on the recoil starter side.

Spose that's just a recoil parts issue? But why would the primary have spun so freely in both directions up in the hills and while still warm?

I'm really puzzled but it doesn't take much to get me there....

Thanks for the replies

 

[deepdiver]

02 Zx had recoil issues. there is too much plastic crap in the 01/02 recoil assy. that doesnt hold up..it was corrected in 03 with some metal parts.

The primary will when turned by hand moves fairly easily in either direction.

Where you ever able to get the sled started by the Primary? not always as easy as you would like!

My wifes 03 700HM had the bolt back out of the primary.

 

[Ox]

Drive Clutch spun free - "All the way around" ? Or 120*?

When you say that it has compression - can you qualify that with a number? You should have 125+ #'s. At the very least - put a finger in the plug hole and have your chum roll it over. Does your finger blow out with a vengence - or just outta the hole?

I have heard of cranks that have broken in a mannor that while completely sheared off they still will "catch" via the angle of the shear. ???

Hopefully you just have a recoil issue, but ???