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Grand Lake/ Winter Park

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oneal30

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Any ideas on conditions around winter Park and Grand Lake?

Supposed to be out there next week but will reschedule if there's not enough snow.

Sick of this conversation!


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From G/L's "Sky-Hi" News today...:


"Behind the Kawuneeche Visitor Center at the western entrance to Rocky Mountain National Park, measured average snow depth for this time of year is about 22 inches, according to Park staff.

But this year, the depth is 7 inches.

And where the average of December snowfall in that area over the past 62 years is about 28 inches, this December averaged 4.8 inches.

It's a stark contrast to last year's December, during which an average 48 inches fell there.

From Colorado Parks and Wildlife snow surveys located in the Blue River, Middle Creek, Troublesome Creek and Williams Fork areas, compiled by biologists, the average snow depth shows less than 5 centimeters this year, where the 10-year average is about 15 cm."


:face-icon-small-con:rant:
 
Here is an email forwarded to me by my uncle who is a researcher at CSU regarding the climate changes for this area...


Hi B!
Here is climate data, the number of days per year with and without freezing
temps for the past 70 years summarized for the weather station quite close
to your cabin at Grand Lake.
Really interesting systematic changes.
What it shows is that the number of frost free days has increased from
around 50 in the 1940s when the record started to over 100 days per year
now, an increase of more than 100%. Get out those shorts, and sell the
snowboards and sleds!

DAVID

Begin forwarded message:

From: <emailremoved@nps.gov<mailto:emailremoved@nps.gov>>
Date: January 5, 2012 9:47:00 AM MST
Subject: Climate Change: Frost Free Days at Kawuneeche VC


We used temperature records from Kawuneeche VC to show a straightforward
pattern of warming. KVC is our longest running weather station and folks
there have been remarkably good over more than seventy years at keeping the
record.
 

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Here is an email forwarded to me by my uncle who is a researcher at CSU regarding the climate changes for this area...


Hi B!
Here is climate data, the number of days per year with and without freezing
temps for the past 70 years summarized for the weather station quite close
to your cabin at Grand Lake.
Really interesting systematic changes.
What it shows is that the number of frost free days has increased from
around 50 in the 1940s when the record started to over 100 days per year
now, an increase of more than 100%. Get out those shorts, and sell the
snowboards and sleds!

DAVID

Begin forwarded message:

From: <emailremoved@nps.gov<mailto:emailremoved@nps.gov>>
Date: January 5, 2012 9:47:00 AM MST
Subject: Climate Change: Frost Free Days at Kawuneeche VC


We used temperature records from Kawuneeche VC to show a straightforward
pattern of warming. KVC is our longest running weather station and folks
there have been remarkably good over more than seventy years at keeping the
record.



That is some cool info. The temp isnt the problem as much as there arent any clouds with precipitation in them. You would think with the global warming going on and the polar ice caps thawing there would be a whole lot more water vapor in the air ready to drop rain or snow. Friggin drought.
 
It doesn't seem like temp has been an issue this year. Although it is warm now it seems we need the storms to track over us. We've had some pretty cold weather already it seems to me at least, just no precip...
 
That is some cool info. The temp isnt the problem as much as there arent any clouds with precipitation in them. You would think with the global warming going on and the polar ice caps thawing there would be a whole lot more water vapor in the air ready to drop rain or snow. Friggin drought.

It doesn't seem like temp has been an issue this year. Although it is warm now it seems we need the storms to track over us. We've had some pretty cold weather already it seems to me at least, just no precip...


I think you're both right. We've had "the usual" cold temps in both FC and GL so far this season, just NO moisture in the air to create any precipitation.:face-icon-small-con

If everything wasn't dry-as-a-bone, it would be most-likely be frozen!
 
That is some cool info. The temp isnt the problem as much as there arent any clouds with precipitation in them. You would think with the global warming going on and the polar ice caps thawing there would be a whole lot more water vapor in the air ready to drop rain or snow. Friggin drought.

Agreed!! Doesn't water evaporate more when the tempreture is higher? And, in turn, wouldn't more water in the air (humidity) lead to more clouds/rain/snow?

I'm no 'Climatalogist', but this seems logical to me! :face-icon-small-hap
 
Agreed!! Doesn't water evaporate more when the tempreture is higher? And, in turn, wouldn't more water in the air (humidity) lead to more clouds/rain/snow?

I'm no 'Climatalogist', but this seems logical to me! :face-icon-small-hap

And then the added vapor or clouds to the atmosphere will block more of the suns rays and in turn, over time, the earth will cool. In my mind its just a cycle.

Weeelll I cant back that up but it sounds good. :eyebrows:
 
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