GPS routes in Island Park

[ScubaSteve]

Just got the Garmin GPSmap 62s. I am trying to figure out all the cool stuff I can do with it. I was able to load my MapSouce maps, and while reading a bunch on the intrnet a guestion came to me. Is there a place on the net where people post thier Routes/Tracks (not sure) of cool places they have been and how to follow your GPS there?

For instance; I have owned a cabin in Island Park my whole life and absolutly love the snowmobile community there (live in UT. do 90% of my riding in IP). I have never been into Mt Jefferson, snowmobiled all the trails around it, and even been to the top of Reas Peak.

Is there a way with my GPS to download someone's Route/Track to follow thier way in???? Ive heard alot of different ways into this area. Some harder, some easier. Hell, maybe I'm asking to much, this might be everyones secret

Thanks guy's
Scuba, do'in the snow dance

 

[christopher]

Good Question.
Someone must know the answer.

 

[Blk88GT]

Steve, I have a ton of GPS track info for IP. No route into Jefferson as everyone seems pretty tight lipped. I know how to get IN, but getting out is the reason I haven't gone in

Let me know if I can help! We'll be out there this year and would be up for going into Jefferson if you're going!

 

[ScubaSteve]

Thanks BLK88GT, I am always up for a ride.

I think a web site, much like a geocach site, would be very cool. Where people post the Route off thier GPS of all the cool destinations they have ridden too. But then again maybe people are protective of thier favorite spots.

Anyway, snowmobiling Mt Jefferson area is on my todo list.

Currently on my way to Island Park now. Towing the sleds up and hoping there is enough snow to atleast go for a trail ride. (haven't been out yet, and I'm die'in for some Mt air)

 

[ScubaSteve]

better than expected

This year is off to a crappy start, but Island Park snowmobiling is ready to ride. There is plenty of snow to get started.

 

[turbolover]

Steve.

I know of several ways to get into and out of Jefferson. I don't have any of them on GPS routes but I'd play guide for ya and probably ought to bring my GPS along to actually track it.

I usually ride with my GPS but haven't saved any of the routes into or out of there.

Charlie

 

[turbolover]

Steve, I have a ton of GPS track info for IP. No route into Jefferson as everyone seems pretty tight lipped. I know how to get IN, but getting out is the reason I haven't gone in

Let me know if I can help! We'll be out there this year and would be up for going into Jefferson if you're going!

There are 2 good routes out that you can make even if you are dragging a dead sled.
Going out on the north side you will come out over by Robin's Roost and Sawtell Mountain Resort. You actually end up riding down the Sawtelle Road for a ways. There is only one hill to pull and unfortunately it can be a biotch to get up. Not bad to ride up but to pull a sled up you WILL NEED some rope and pulleys.
Been there done that a couple of times.

Heading South is an easy ride that takes you out of Hell Roaring on a Forest Service Road clear out to the Kilgore Road. We have had short track 440s clear into the bottom of Bread Loaf. If ya gotta take a dead sled out I'd say go that way.

I have gone several different ways into and out of Jefferson. Getting out is no problem if you know where to go. You can't always go back up the hills you drop in on.

 

[Blk88GT]

Steve, let me know if you want some of the tracks I have.

Turbo, you going to be around Feb 18th-25?

I'd like to track it once with someone who knows the area!

 

[turbolover]

I sure will be. Let me know and I will come play guide for a day.

I just found out that I will be up there tomorrow. About the only place with any real snow, so I'll see if I can post up a track this weekend.

 

[richracer1]

I sure will be. Let me know and I will come play guide for a day.

I just found out that I will be up there tomorrow. About the only place with any real snow, so I'll see if I can post up a track this weekend.

Hey Turbo, the 4M ride is 17 - 20.

 

[Bigrock33]

I sure will be. Let me know and I will come play guide for a day.

I just found out that I will be up there tomorrow. About the only place with any real snow, so I'll see if I can post up a track this weekend.

As strange as this may seem, I have rode IP for over 10+ years and have NEVER been to Jefferson. We had a cabin in Shotgun West, not far from Jefferson. Never rode with anyone who knew how to get in and out without some major technical riding/difficulties. Tried to get there a couple times with guys who "said" they knew the ways in and out, needless to say, never made it in. We are pretty decent riders, been riding lot's of years, would like to be able to see what that area is all about and stay out of harms way. Both times we had good riders who got in bad situations. Would love to find out some good ways in and out. Still have friends with cabins up there, as well as still own property, so we go up numerous times each year

 

[turbolover]

OK YES I will be in Wyoming on the 17-20th of February. Those dates are out.

22nd or 23 would be great for me.

Getting into Mount Jefferson can be as technical as you want to get. Depending on the route you take. My favorite route can get pretty tough if there is alot of snow. Getting through the drifts can be a real bugger on deep days.
Yesterday I had 7 of us in there including my 14YO son on a 09 600 RMK.

We parked at Tom Creek and rode up Reas Ridge. Dropped into Hell Roaring and back up over the Bread Loaf (Cow Face, depending on who you talk to). We rode up the draw and looked over into the backside (NorthWest Side) of Jefferson but didn't drop in.
The weather started to move in on us and we headed out. I didn't want to get caught in Braille riding conditions with people that didn't know where they were going. We followed the Willowcreek Road down until we jumped up over the hill and worked up our way up the Draw called The Casino. (aptly named because with no snow or too much snow it's kind of a crap shoot on whether you can get up through it.) We popped out on Reas Ridge above Tom Creek and headed back to the truck.

If you are coming back out on the Willow Creek Road you will end up about a half mile West of the Tom Creek Parking lot on the Kilgore Road. There isn't a sign designating this parking lot as such. But according to the map it is right there by Tom Creek.

Since I can't figure out how to attach the GPS File or make a frickin image from Google Earth. Send me a PM and I will email you the GPS and Google Earth files that you can look at.

If you ride up the Willow Creek Road. You can get clear into The Bread Loaf hill with a 440 Short track. You won't get up it. I know I tried. It isn't long but dang is it steep. It was a tradition for a couple years, that we took my buddies scout troop in there for a New Years ride if they accomplished their goals for the year. That was all he had to ride was a short track 440. I could get it about half way up and that was it.

If you come up the Blue Creek or Dry Creek Drainages there are some pretty good climbs and some technical areas.
You can also come in from the North side by Red Rock Lakes but I haven't been in that way.

You can also get into Jefferson from the Sawtelle mountain road.

On a rating of difficulty I would place them as easiest to most difficult

Willow Creek road
Sawtelle mountain road
Tom Creek over Reas Ridge
then
Dry Dreek, Blue Creek, and the Northern route all about the same level of Difficulty.

On the Backside (Northwestern Slope) I have heard some say that Yahoo isn't anything big to climb, a stock 800 Polaris with Nitrous did it. That is true but it was late spring hero snow conditions. They weren't there when it is a 50 foot drop to get down off of the top of that sucker. Then you get about 100 yards to line yourself up to go between a solid rock wall and a huge rock spire.

No thanks. I can go around to get in and back out.

 

[ScubaSteve]

Awesome! Thanks for all the info.

Turbo, I may have to take you up on the "guide for a day" some time. I appreciate the offer. I'll have to PM you for the Google Earth, that sounds great.

BLK88GT, I'll hit you with my email for some Tracks.

I'll try and attach some Island Park pics from this week-end.

 

[turbolover]

Steve and anyone else
Give me a heads up before hand and I'll be glad to come show you around.

Bigrock. If you don't KNOW where you are going you can get into trouble around Jefferson. I've got a buddy that had to chopper 2 sleds out after S&R came to get him. So I can see how you'd be worried about getting into trouble in there.
I look at as it isn't MY mountain so I'd rather show you a good way in and out rather than having to go look for you when your lost and stuck.

 

[Jeva]

I have been working on a google map that shows some of the routes to Jefferson. I have not personally dropped in over the ridge to the north side, so use and proceed with caution. I have also not followed all of the routes to see if they are right. I have rode the Blue Creek route all the way to the ridge but did not go any farther. The Tom Creek route, the Willow Creek Route and the Casino Draw are all courtesy of turbolover gps tracks.(thanks) Its a work in progress showing some trails, roads, waypoints and routes. Let me know if anything is wrong or needs to be added. You can also click on KML and save the file for your own google earth. I also want to make a garmin overlay map at some point.


http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...l=44.521479,-111.441536&spn=0.183343,0.445976

 

[turbolover]

Matt
That map looks good except for the placement of YAHOO.

That is the draw right next to what is called the BUTT CRACK. Those are both ways to get down from Reas Peak ridge to the bottom of Hell Roaring Canyon.

the Yahoo Chute (as I had it explained to me) is on the Northwest side of Jefferson. It goes from the peak down to the bowl on the backside.

Late spring with a healthy shot of Nitrous it can be climbed as one of the Zollinger Bros showed in the vid. Mid winter tho it is about a 50 foot drop off of an overhanging cornice. There is a little maybe 10 foot draw off of the top leading down to it. Hence the name YAHOO because if you commit to any part of it "Yahoo YOU ARE GOING DOWN and you AIN'T coming back up."

Next ride up there I will try and mark the top and bottom of Yahoo so you can put it up on the map.

Charlie

 

[WXNic]

...it can't be that hard to get in if this one made it! it's been a few years for me, but i had a good guide. is the second picture pucker? i can't remember. this is looking south-ish.