good fuel ????
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I'm thinkin' I read that the EPA mandates the "Lite" fuel in King, Pierce and Sno counties? Maybe someone can back me up on this?
non ethanol in Mount Vernon
76 on College Way and Waugh Rd. sells non ethanol, I asked. Sorry it's not down south.
76 on College Way and Waugh Rd. sells non ethanol, I asked. Sorry it's not down south.
Just use startron
Susposed to cure your ethanol problems and stabilize the gas
Susposed to cure your ethanol problems and stabilize the gas
Has anyone actually experienced ANY problems from running the ethanol fuel? Have not seen it myself.
Ethanol tip
I got a tip from a friend in Montana where i was last week sledding with. He told me sta-bil makes a ethanol treatment for fuel. Its a marine formula. The NAPA dealer in Montana carried it. Its also keeps you fuel from going bad after sitting for a long time. It come in a 1 quart sta-bil bottle with the measuring spout on it just like the regular bottle does and ite treat up to 320 gallons. It was not cheap. I paid $27.35 tax free in Montana for the quart. It sounds like a good deal over all. I haven't used any yet but i going to on the next fuel up. PS Gas prices in Washington SUCK. I paid $2.37 a gallon for regular when i left yesterday in Montana. I paid $ 2.57 for supper for my sled.
I got a tip from a friend in Montana where i was last week sledding with. He told me sta-bil makes a ethanol treatment for fuel. Its a marine formula. The NAPA dealer in Montana carried it. Its also keeps you fuel from going bad after sitting for a long time. It come in a 1 quart sta-bil bottle with the measuring spout on it just like the regular bottle does and ite treat up to 320 gallons. It was not cheap. I paid $27.35 tax free in Montana for the quart. It sounds like a good deal over all. I haven't used any yet but i going to on the next fuel up. PS Gas prices in Washington SUCK. I paid $2.37 a gallon for regular when i left yesterday in Montana. I paid $ 2.57 for supper for my sled.
prices on everything sucks in washington
Methanol
Yup, methanol is bad for sleds or any performance engine. I'm a skier, as in water skier, and read several boating/marine magazines regularly. The boating industry is lobbying the Coast Guard to ban it's use in the marine industry due to it's many and several extremely dangerous faults when used for boating.
I can't begin to list all the negative things about it but here's one:
When ANY moisture is in your tank, the methanol separates out with the water and actually TAKES -non-scientific term
, the octane OUT of the rest of your fuel leaving you literally 10 points or more lower in octane rating depending on various factors.
I'm not sure many of us want to be hauling butt up the side of a mountain on 78 octane gas...
It's real, methanol is crap and costs us more oil to CREATE it then we get back when done processing it.... gotta love idiot lobbyists and politicians.
BTW, the Conoco in Ellensburg by the freeway carries non-ethanol gas too.
Yup, methanol is bad for sleds or any performance engine. I'm a skier, as in water skier, and read several boating/marine magazines regularly. The boating industry is lobbying the Coast Guard to ban it's use in the marine industry due to it's many and several extremely dangerous faults when used for boating.
I can't begin to list all the negative things about it but here's one:
When ANY moisture is in your tank, the methanol separates out with the water and actually TAKES -non-scientific term
, the octane OUT of the rest of your fuel leaving you literally 10 points or more lower in octane rating depending on various factors. I'm not sure many of us want to be hauling butt up the side of a mountain on 78 octane gas...
It's real, methanol is crap and costs us more oil to CREATE it then we get back when done processing it.... gotta love idiot lobbyists and politicians.
BTW, the Conoco in Ellensburg by the freeway carries non-ethanol gas too.
Right on, I also heard that Conoco in Eburg at west interchange sells gas w/o ethanol
Have a friend with a 700 dragon that was having running problems. Sled kept cutting out, bogging and no power. Took it to local dealer and fuel intake line in tank was eaten away and pieces floating in tank. Dealer contributed it to ethanol gas from cheap gas stations. We only run premium non -ethanol gas. Check you local Conoco station - that is where we buy all of ours
Wal mart sells the sta-bil marine
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papa bear
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Yes, I have.
Both in a sled and boats.
One of my brothers is an auto mechanic - he pulls fuels tanks every now and then.
x3
Lots of methanol related problems. Fuel bulbs in outboards, fuel lines/pumps/carbs etc marine related.
Sleds: my 03 Escape gas tank seal.
Anything like chain saws, weedeaters, etc. You will find bits of blk rubber chunks clogging jets, fuel pumps, etc.
Not just "cheap" stations...ANY methanol does this to fuel systems that were not designed for methanol...including replacement parts...
Lots of methanol related problems. Fuel bulbs in outboards, fuel lines/pumps/carbs etc marine related.
Sleds: my 03 Escape gas tank seal.
Anything like chain saws, weedeaters, etc. You will find bits of blk rubber chunks clogging jets, fuel pumps, etc.
Not just "cheap" stations...ANY methanol does this to fuel systems that were not designed for methanol...including replacement parts...
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papa bear
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phase separation
Problems I have seen were related to phase separation in the fuel.
The alcohol will separate from the gas over time. With the high humidity here in western WA the alcohol sucks moisture right from the air. Ended up with roughly a quart of watery gunk in the tank of a Poo 488 fan sled. That sled isn't used too often - which means the fuel sits for a long while. On a trip to E-burg/Lions Head that gunk froze in the fuel line.
Have also seen phase separation in the dive club boats - their fuel tanks that is. Water drips all over the place when divers climb in the boat. I don't know how, but there is always water in the fuel. We installed external fuel filters - the kind that looks like a car's oil filter - on all the club boats.
I am much more careful with putting in fuel stabilizer now.
Problems I have seen were related to phase separation in the fuel.
The alcohol will separate from the gas over time. With the high humidity here in western WA the alcohol sucks moisture right from the air. Ended up with roughly a quart of watery gunk in the tank of a Poo 488 fan sled. That sled isn't used too often - which means the fuel sits for a long while. On a trip to E-burg/Lions Head that gunk froze in the fuel line.
Have also seen phase separation in the dive club boats - their fuel tanks that is. Water drips all over the place when divers climb in the boat. I don't know how, but there is always water in the fuel. We installed external fuel filters - the kind that looks like a car's oil filter - on all the club boats.
I am much more careful with putting in fuel stabilizer now.
anyone know where to get good gas in wenatchee...every gas station attendant ive asked gives me a dumb look and says i dont know.
thanks
thanks
