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Global warming scam.

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shmuckaluck

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hey guys,
I was listening to the news today and heard this. if you go to mynorthwest.com, then shows, go to 97.3 news talk radio, then dori monson show, it's the first thing you see and there are links to some articals. I don't know how to post the link sorry. if someone goes there and knows an easyer way to get there that would be good. some people are in trouble.
 
Well that settles it!

hey guys,
I was listening to the news today and heard this. if you go to mynorthwest.com, then shows, go to 97.3 news talk radio, then dori monson show, it's the first thing you see and there are links to some articals. I don't know how to post the link sorry. if someone goes there and knows an easyer way to get there that would be good. some people are in trouble.

First and foremost, I would like to say that it's NOT Global Warming the correct term is Climate Change. This is hardly what might be considered as damming evidence, I mean who the **** is Dori Monson, do you honestly believe that he was the first to break this story, one that effects the entire PLANET, on FM radio, on a show that it's follow up story is of a couple that were arrested for not leaving a tip, really! If this is was something even near truth don't ya think that his stations affiliates might have picked up the story if it was so ground breaking or even factual?

This is hardly the proper venue for this sort of debate , but...What is it about Climate Change that you don't want to understand, why are you willing to believe one persons word, Dori Monson over the hundreds and hundreds of papers and articles written on this subject, completely independently of these TWO climatologists that may or may not exist that are in collusion. Educate yourself on the topic and form your own opinion.

That's my .02c
 
Burps 2 cents aren't worth much. The real issue is has man and our activities caused the warming, or is it a natural cycle that typical of the activity of the sun. While man should try to be more responsible, there is no way that our effect is close to what Mr Internet himself prophesied. Hows that water level in CA looking. They should be about under water by now.

This story shows that getting your message out is more important than sharing facts. lets twist and keep twisting facts so our position looks right.
 
Burps 2 cents aren't worth much. The real issue is has man and our activities caused the warming, or is it a natural cycle that typical of the activity of the sun. While man should try to be more responsible, there is no way that our effect is close to what Mr Internet himself prophesied. Hows that water level in CA looking. They should be about under water by now.

This story shows that getting your message out is more important than sharing facts. lets twist and keep twisting facts so our position looks right.

Exactly!


This is hardly the proper venue for this sort of debate , but...What is it about Climate Change that you don't want to understand, why are you willing to believe one persons word, Dori Monson over the hundreds and hundreds of papers and articles written on this subject, completely independently of these TWO climatologists that may or may not exist that are in collusion. Educate yourself on the topic and form your own opinion.

I didn't even go to the link and listen and/or read, no need to. I have made up my mind on this issue many years ago from reading factual articles from numerous experts that believe this issue is not caused by man, and as snowlover states, it is just a "natural cycle".

But hey, believe what ever makes you tick.:confused:
 
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First and foremost, I would like to say that it's NOT Global Warming the correct term is Climate Change. This is hardly what might be considered as damming evidence, I mean who the **** is Dori Monson, do you honestly believe that he was the first to break this story, one that effects the entire PLANET, on FM radio, on a show that it's follow up story is of a couple that were arrested for not leaving a tip, really! If this is was something even near truth don't ya think that his stations affiliates might have picked up the story if it was so ground breaking or even factual?

This is hardly the proper venue for this sort of debate , but...What is it about Climate Change that you don't want to understand, why are you willing to believe one persons word, Dori Monson over the hundreds and hundreds of papers and articles written on this subject, completely independently of these TWO climatologists that may or may not exist that are in collusion. Educate yourself on the topic and form your own opinion.

That's my .02c

Oh boy, an expert. So, you want to talk about tropospheric temperature gradients, and why they don't match the simulations? You want to talk about thermal bouys, and why the oceans are no where near the expected temperature? You want to talk about Climate changes, as nothing more than an excuse for world welfare? What about the computer simulations expected output, versus actual real data? Oh yha, their models are perfect, but completely missed the last 11 years. "But, it's a solar cycle.". Yes, and why didn't your models take a cycle into consideration? How about we talk about blackbody radiation and spectral absorption frequencies? It's all fun.

Dude, I've been reading and reading about this. I'd love to debate this hocus-pocus, Al Gore the idiot krap, for the simple minded to believe in. HOPE and CHANGE and GLOBAL CLIMATE CRISIS, there all the same, politics.
 
First and foremost, I would like to say that it's NOT Global Warming the correct term is Climate Change. This is hardly what might be considered as damming evidence, I mean who the **** is Dori Monson, do you honestly believe that he was the first to break this story, one that effects the entire PLANET, on FM radio, on a show that it's follow up story is of a couple that were arrested for not leaving a tip, really! If this is was something even near truth don't ya think that his stations affiliates might have picked up the story if it was so ground breaking or even factual?

This is hardly the proper venue for this sort of debate , but...What is it about Climate Change that you don't want to understand, why are you willing to believe one persons word, Dori Monson over the hundreds and hundreds of papers and articles written on this subject, completely independently of these TWO climatologists that may or may not exist that are in collusion. Educate yourself on the topic and form your own opinion.

That's my .02c

OMG... drank a bit heavy, did ya'...? BBBBaaaaaaaha said the sheep.
 
When I was young and foolish I got into that Blackbody radiation for a while and it really screwed up my Spectral absorbsion frequency for a bit.........

Actually, i find it odd that the scientific world can show us that there was a climate similar to south america near the north pole and that there have been something like 7 ice ages that they can measure
But the electric car is going to save the world
Dont get me wrong, I think pollution is bad and it will catch up to us but fix something that matters like dumping millions of pounds of garbage in the ocean every day
 
When I was young and foolish I got into that Blackbody radiation for a while and it really screwed up my Spectral absorbsion frequency for a bit.........

Actually, i find it odd that the scientific world can show us that there was a climate similar to south america near the north pole and that there have been something like 7 ice ages that they can measure
But the electric car is going to save the world
Dont get me wrong, I think pollution is bad and it will catch up to us but fix something that matters like dumping millions of pounds of garbage in the ocean every day

Hahaha, we used to call that, pollution that made the Indian cry. Oh, there's pollution in this world. Most of it seems to be coming out of countries that are somehow exempt from the Kyoto Protocol. Funny how that works. If I were forced to find one source of pollution that the USA produces, the only thing I could possibly come up with is CO2. Isn't that strange how CO2 is the only thing in this world we are told to be worried about. Hummm???
 
Global warming is a scam and its not that hard to use their own propaganda to prove it.

1. The sun follows cycles of more\less solar activity.

2. The majority of oxygen producing photosynthesis on Earth is from ocean algae. The cooler the ocean water temperature the more CO2 is converted to O2. See link;
http://ecology.com/features/mostimportantorganism/

3. 70.8%of the Earth's surface is covered by water.

4. As the solar activity increases so does CO2 because algae converts less CO2 to oxygen in warmer water. As the sun cools so does water temperatures creating more favorable conditions for algae to convert CO2 to O2.

5. Fact; CO2 has always followed temperature;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Co2-temperature-plot.svg
 
I think it is funny how the douche bag hippies and Gore changed the term "Global warming" to "climate change when it was proven that the temps were actually declining.
It's all just a big scam to get more $ from taxpayers. Wake the F up
 
Hiding evidence of global cooling

Is this editorial below what Monty was talking about on 11/20/09? I just read this today.

This is fantastic news. This news really made my day.

I have never believed in man caused global warming, but instead that the earth goes through cycles of cooling and warming, and this I would hope will blow the doors off of Cap and Trade if it proves to be true. Oh wait, probably won't change much with the folks in control of Congress and the White House. What was I thinking...

Senator James Inhofe (R-OK), has indicated that if this holds true when the Senate returns from Thanksgiving recess, that he will call for an investigation. He is the Ranking Minority member on the Committee on Environment and Public Works. Something tells me that the Senator in charge of this committee, Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), will not allow an investigation to take place.

Let the games begin!!!

Dave

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/

EDITORIAL: Hiding evidence of global cooling
Junk science exposed among climate-change believers
Tuesday, November 24, 2009

By THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Scientific progress depends on accurate and complete data. It also relies on replication. The past couple of days have uncovered some shocking revelations about the baloney practices that pass as sound science about climate change.

It was announced Thursday afternoon that computer hackers had obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) in England. Those e-mails involved communication among many scientific researchers and policy advocates with similar ideological positions all across the world. Those purported authorities were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global-warming claims.

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and professor Michael E. Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny. Among his e-mails, Mr. Jones talked to Mr. Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series ... to hide the decline [in temperature]."

Mr. Mann admitted that he was party to this conversation and lamely explained to the New York Times that "scientists often used the word 'trick' to refer to a good way to solve a problem 'and not something secret.' " Though the liberal New York newspaper apparently buys this explanation, we have seen no benign explanation that justifies efforts by researchers to skew data on so-called global-warming "to hide the decline." Given the controversies over the accuracy of Mr. Mann's past research, it is surprising his current explanations are accepted so readily.

There is a lot of damning evidence about these researchers concealing information that counters their bias. In another exchange, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann: "If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone" and, "We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind." Mr. Jones further urged Mr. Mann to join him in deleting e-mail exchanges about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) controversial assessment report (ARA): "Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re [the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report]?"

In another e-mail, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann, professor Malcolm K. Hughes of the University of Arizona and professor Raymond S. Bradley of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst: "I'm getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don't any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!"

At one point, Mr. Jones complained to another academic, "I did get an email from the [Freedom of Information] person here early yesterday to tell me I shouldn't be deleting emails." He also offered up more dubious tricks of his trade, specifically that "IPCC is an international organization, so is above any national FOI. Even if UEA holds anything about IPCC, we are not obliged to pass it on." Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discussed in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that otherwise would be seen in the results. Mr. Mann sent Mr. Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he was sending shouldn't be shown to others because the data support critics of global warming.

Repeatedly throughout the e-mails that have been made public, proponents of global-warming theories refer to data that has been hidden or destroyed. Only e-mails from Mr. Jones' institution have been made public, and with his obvious approach to deleting sensitive files, it's difficult to determine exactly how much more information has been lost that could be damaging to the global-warming theocracy and its doomsday forecasts.

We don't condone e-mail theft by hackers, though these e-mails were covered by Britain's Freedom of Information Act and should have been released. The content of these e-mails raises extremely serious questions that could end the academic careers of many prominent professors. Academics who have purposely hidden data, destroyed information and doctored their results have committed scientific fraud. We can only hope respected academic institutions such as Pennsylvania State University, the University of Arizona and the University of Massachusetts at Amherst conduct proper investigative inquiries.

Most important, however, these revelations of fudged science should have a cooling effect on global-warming hysteria and the panicked policies that are being pushed forward to address the unproven theory.
 
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hahahahhahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

What where the first clues?

Al Gore opening his fracking mouth?
Al Gore getting a Nobel?
The Global Warming name being changed to Global Climate Change?
The UN got in on the act?
IPCC quit publishing graphs, because there too easy to read?
The urgency?
Somehow it was the United States, Republican Parties fault?
That the environmentalist latched onto it?
That school children where being taught Global Warming was the new Atomic War?
That every possible change in the weather was being blamed in Global Warming?
That opposing views where being yelled down?
The media bought into it?
All the temperature data was being modified?

I don't know, but I do know that the same idiots that bought into Global Warming, probably voted for Obama. Small minds think alike. DUH.
 
hahahahhahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

What where the first clues?

Al Gore opening his fracking mouth?
Al Gore getting a Nobel?
The Global Warming name being changed to Global Climate Change?
The UN got in on the act?
IPCC quit publishing graphs, because there too easy to read?
The urgency?
Somehow it was the United States, Republican Parties fault?
That the environmentalist latched onto it?
That school children where being taught Global Warming was the new Atomic War?
That every possible change in the weather was being blamed in Global Warming?
That opposing views where being yelled down?
The media bought into it?
All the temperature data was being modified?

I don't know, but I do know that the same idiots that bought into Global Warming, probably voted for Obama. Small minds think alike. DUH.

That's very good, Wade.
 
Through the numerous e-mails, discovered, we now can pinpoint the genisis of the left wing conspiracy.
 
Big Picture Truth on Global Warming by Mold

The Sun is about 4.5 billion years old. it has used up about half of its nuclear fuel (hydrogen). In about 5 billion years from now, the sun will begin to die.

As the Sun grows old, it will expand. As the core runs out of hydrogen and then helium, the core will contact and the outer layers will expand, cool, and become less bright. It will become a red giant star.

After this phase, the outer layers of the Sun will continue to expand. As this happens, the core will contract; the helium atoms in the core will fuse together, forming carbon atoms and releasing energy. The core will then be stable since the carbon atoms are not further compressible.

Global warming at it's finest. All life will be crispy critters. (and that is not the one and only cereal that comes in the shape of animals)
 
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