Gen 2 for early season bottomless fluff

[eric82930]

Hi Guys,

I know talk about any other ski is probably taboo by now but,
I have an older TS kit and upgraded my ski to the ts backcountry and the new ski is hands down better on the road. I still have my gen 2 and I was thinking of putting it on for the next month until we start to get a base. I am trashing the new ski because the center keel is catching on the dirt and rocks because our snow has no base at all yet. Its 3 feet deep and still can grap junk off the ground if I cut hard enough..... Also road riding is grinding the dual center runner off fast.... The plastic on the side keels is getting mangled too.

Does anyone else think the gen 2 might be almost as good as the ts ski in bottomless fluff? And since keels arent as deep it should not catch as much trash unter the snow?

Going off memory I can't remember hating the gen2 so much in deep pow. The lack of outer edge bite won't matter right now because there is no base for it to bite into....

Also I thought the gen 2 was a little longer (more floatation) but as I look at it it just looks longer because the tip is not curled up as far as the ts ski. The surface area is probably exactly the same.

Was there any deep powder specific mods you guys used to do to the gen 2? Wings?

 

[eric82930]

I just took the day off to test ride the old ski and answered my own question.
The stock gen 2 is ok in super deep pow. It doesn't really wash out but it does drift wider expecially if there is any semi firm patches like wind crusts. I forgot how bad is sucks on the roads.... It's scary. But the whole day the gen 2 did not catch or hang up on anything like the ts ski did the previous ride. I even rode through my old tracks in some of the rocky sections. Our snow is so dry my tracks from the other day are still fluffy. It feels like the keels only dig half as deep as the ts ski....duh thats probably why the ts works so good. The previous ride the ts ski was pulling rocks out of the frozen ground! The gen 2 is a worthwhile trade off for lack of performance I guess for now. As soon as the snow gets more firm, the ts ski is going back on.

 

[SteepNdeep450]

I'm not familiar with what gen each ski is I'm guessing you are talking about the old 6" ski? Just from you describing how scary it is, I heard that one can be on the trail.

Just thought I'd show you this, the guy has a video of him crossing dirt roads and whatnot with it. I would bet it grabs a whole lot less than that U shape one on the current ski. May be worth a shot...

http://snowbikekits.com/product/gold-standard-wear-skeg-fits-timbersled-10-backcountry-ski/

 

[xr650ryder]

Run your T/S Ski with the Bergstrom Tripple point Skegs

I Agree with above post 100%

I own 4 styles of Simmons Skis. ( Gen I, Gen II, Gen III and T/S).

Run your T/S Ski with the Bergstrom Tripple point Skeg.

 

[eric82930]

gen 1 6" wide
gen 2 10" wide
gen 3 8" wide
all dual runners no center keel

gen 2 the keels are NOT on the outside like the ts ski.

 

[eric82930]

The bergstroms look like they would hook up on concrete! It would still rattle my teeth hiting rocks. At least the gen 2 doesn't seem to even touch most rocks under the surface.

 

[xr650ryder]

This should Help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEcVKjNlYUI

This should help your arm chair evaluation of the triple point center skag.

IMO the T/S ski with triple point Skag out performs any combination I have tried to date across: cement, asphalt, mud, gravel, bolder fields, creek crossing, boiler plate icy trail, groomed trails, Rocks in powder, Trees in powder.

I would like to try the R2 raptor front end. I would luv to throw a couple of my old Gen 1 Simmons 6" skis on the Raptor front-end. That should the hot ticket for this tread Topic.

If your married to the Gen II I will sell mine for almost nothing.

 

[Hawkster]

The Gen II set up for the one ski has SS trackers near the outside edges for those that would think that a snowmobile Gen II just bolts on .

 

[mfatty]

Triple point

That looks and sounds way more forgiving than the TS skag,