found weak point on the xps

[rmkboxer]

I am not bashing just wondering if anybody else has had this happen, my buddy has a 160 something track on his and hes rails bent about 2-3 inches to the side. we couldn't beleive what we saw he was a bit irratated since he says he did not hit anything. I notice how much they flex with just pushing on them is crazy. I will say they can't make the rails any lighter. and from what I see they could have made them a bit heavier. sorry no pics but I will try to get him to send me pics so I can post them. oh ya he didn't think it was funny when I asked him if he hit a pine cone

 

[steveo10]

the rails are weak and would be scared to jump it

 

[lightening800]

weak points

it would be quicker if you listed the strong points instead of the weak points. lol

 

[cuuptop]

I've pounded mine pretty hard and haven't bent them yet. But I did twist up my drive shaft on a pine cone.

 

[winter brew]

He hit something

 

[rmkboxer]

He hit something

very possible but as badly bent as these rails were bent sideways you would think you would know for sure that you hit something, if you seen it you would think he would have felt it and it should have thrown him from the sled

 

[fredw]

yes i know were you are comming from

little info on my bent rails with pictures
http://www.dootalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=185554

 

[MARCUSO]

I would be guessing that they were bent from a side impact. I don't believe it was from an impact from beneath.. The back of the rails still are flat on the floor

 

[winter brew]

very possible but as badly bent as these rails were bent sideways you would think you would know for sure that you hit something, if you seen it you would think he would have felt it and it should have thrown him from the sled

I bet he's been stuck real deep, nose in the air and had about 3 guys pulling the front around without breaking the rear loose first. ???? Maybe???

 

[H20SKE]

That is funny--I have a freind with a 163 XP that has about 800 miles on it already and rides like the sled was stolen--has not bent his rails yet.

Sounds like a side impact on something in the snow or a pull like Winter Brew said.


H20SKE...

 

[rmkboxer]

yes i know were you are comming from

little info on my bent rails with pictures
http://www.dootalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=185554

its no where near that bent, it is bent behind all in the back, I he hit something but its not good when you can't jump or bump something with your track because your rails will bend.

 

[diggerdown]

That rear sissior arm looks like it would fold over pretty easy. They cut most of the metal out and what is left is pretty light gauge. They just don't look like they are made for long life. The up side is that they have the most comfortable seating postion I've ever seen on a sled.

 

[swe-doo]

This weight hunt has gone to far, no one notices a few pounds here and there, and if things crack because of it, there's wrong way to go.
DRIVEL i say!!

 

[swe-doo]

Another weight thing, what about those ridiculous holes in track.
Yeah they save some weight, but the surface keeping sled up in snow are much less.
And what if something gets stuck in one of those holes, like a stump or something, can imagine what that will do to the rails.
And what if that driveshaft should have been solid, NO PROBLEMS.
God I'm getting tired of these crappy solutions for weightsavings that got more downsides than positive sides.

DRIVEL​

 

[diggerdown]

I thought the track was a little extreem too. I have my track ported, but that xp barely had a track left! Light is nice but only if it can take the beating these sleds get. Without the use of expensive lightweight materials, durability will suffer.

 

[swe-doo]

Wonder how that holes in track works when crossing water that one have to do sometimes in spring.

 

[millnoff]

I just dont understand what everyone is *****ing about, people including myself, spend thousands of dollars trying to lighten up there sleds and a company does it from the factory and then people ***** because parts are weaker????? *%@!? what do you think happens when you put lightweight parts on your sled? carbon fiber, aluminum, Ti are all weaker than steal when used in stuff for sleds cuz its such thin walled.

I can understand why somone would be pissed about the drive shafts not being welded, or blowing the brp pos belts, but when you hit things or jump your sled and land f'd up stuffs gona break, stock, aftermarket, doesnt matter. I know ive seen a few rev's and zx's all folded up in ther rear, it happens.

-Jesse

 

[Pit Crew]

"Another weight thing, what about those ridiculous holes in track.
Yeah they save some weight, but the surface keeping sled up in snow are much less."

I guess weve been wrong for 500 some years with the whole snowshoe thing?

 

[diggerdown]

Not many people using the old rawhide string snowshoes anymore. The ones with the solid canvas web stays up in the light fluff better, they just do not clean off as well when you get snow on top. It is the size of the holes that bother me. Slow speed in the trees in soft snow is where it will effect you. Fence post and small stumps might like to stick in them too!

 

[MARCUSO]

"Another weight thing, what about those ridiculous holes in track.
Yeah they save some weight, but the surface keeping sled up in snow are much less."

I guess weve been wrong for 500 some years with the whole snowshoe thing?

Get pulled with snowshoes on your feet compared to solid bottomed platforms the same square footage. then see what floats on the snow..

What I am am saying is the snowshoe and a snowmobile track are different. A snowshoe does not sink because it is planted on the ground, a cheeze grater will not cut cheeze inless it is pulled.

A snowmobile track is not planted on the ground while going through soft powder... it slides, like a cheeze grater. If it is set up... well a pure mesh track would suffice as well as a ported or solid track...