forty1thirty.com chromoly nytro chassis

[alford]

well it puked all night in revy about a couple hundred feet above town. hopefully take this sled out for a burn later next week . im not a big fan smashing into rocks and i dont like logging roads, so i usually just wait tell we have good snow pack to be safe. All i know is that i went through 4 engines and around 16 belts in the last 2 years of riding a 2 stroke. The idea of havin 240 hp , 1 oil change a year ,1 belt a year is slightly more apealing to me. I rode the stock nytro with a turbo last year and was really impressed , this chromoly nytro chassis is for the guys who want a high end mod sled otherwise they should stick with the nytro as it is a great sled. Pray for snow

cheers

Rob

 

[powdermuncher]

Travis----The cost of R&D should be on the builder period. Not the buyer. "Quote"

If the customer does not pay for R&D there won't be any product for you period. I am pretty sure you will not go to work if you don't get paid!!
Anyone doing a job needs to make a living even the Aftermarked guys.
And with a item like this where there is a very small marked that cost is high.
If you don't like to spend the dough build one yourself and save.
One day when I grow up I will have something like that to.
Nice sled gotta love function over Bling.

Cheers........

 

[travis]

Travis----The cost of R&D should be on the builder period. Not the buyer. "Quote"

If the customer does not pay for R&D there won't be any product for you period. I am pretty sure you will not go to work if you don't get paid!!
Anyone doing a job needs to make a living even the Aftermarked guys.
And with a item like this where there is a very small marked that cost is high.
If you don't like to spend the dough build one yourself and save.
One day when I grow up I will have something like that to.
Nice sled gotta love function over Bling.

Cheers........

So I guess I should keep track of the countless hours I've spent on my sled? OK no problem I can do that. All that so when I do finally want to sell it, I will add in all my time and labor and shop supplies. Hopefully I'll sell it to someone stupid enough to spend all that money!!! When they could build one cheaper themselves. Think about it !! Doesn'tmake sense to me though. If you got the money and you are wealthy go ahead. As for me NO THANKS!!!!

 

[khk]

I think it all depends on how busy a builder wonts to stay R&D is worth something but how much?. we all pay for R&D in some way if you don't wont to bee real busy then charge as much as you think some one will pay and there will be people that will pay if you wont to get alto of sleds out there and make a name for your the product you are building then I think you need to lower cost so you are more appealing to more people. It has been my experience that some of the best riders that I have seen on the hill don't have hi dollar sleds so if you get your sled in the hands of these people you will probably sell more of them. Just a thought and I do like the looks of this sled some one is thinking out side the box.

 

[M5-]

Personally I like the looks of the sled and my next project may well be something along these lines. If you've looked you may have seen my thread on finishing my tunnel. I've got a bunch of pm's about building these tunnels for guys and I could do it but there is only 2 ways to make money at it. The first is to have a design that can be mass produced with little labour ie all simple cuts then formed etc. My design is really labour intesive to build so the only way I could make any reasonable hourly wage at it is to price them pretty high which then brings the "Well I can buy a brand X tunnel for $$$" comments from guys who want a cheap deal. A sled like this isn't for everyone and I'll bet there won't be 50 of them running around anytime soon so a super custom item is just plain going to cost more. These days everybody wants everything for nothing or so it seems.

M5

 

[alford]

i dont have the money to go and buy a porche 911 turbo sports car, but at least i dont go on to there forum and tell them how over priced there sports cars are ,and how i would never buy them because i can buy a honda civic for cheaper . to tell you the truth i wouldn't even think of posting somthing so stupid.

just got back from riding on frisby ridge 2 and half feet up high foot and half at the cabin , and rocks everywhere. pray for some snow

 

[Ak nitro]

Hey Alford, don't sweat it, you can't post much on here with out being picked apart. Anyway I think its really cool your on a nytro now, I hear ya about the multiple belts and motors, same reason I went the T nytro also. Thats a sweet sled, you got some of the best video parts out there, so it will be really cool to see what you can do on that Nytro.

 

[MotoPsycho]

you can't expect all the people buying these sleds to pay for the R&D that goes with it....

The cost of R&D should be on the builder period. Not the buyer....

Do you really believe that it costs Yamaha $12,000 for parts and labor to build a sled?

Howz about my $48,000 Dodge pickup?

I'd venture a guess that about 20% of the cost of ANYTHING is R&D related - including the "new" Coke-a-cola formula....

 

[IRONMAN]

That is one sweet looking sled!!! Man at that weight its gona climb straight up up up, no stoping it!
As for the guys bashing the cost, when you own a business you cant keep the doors open long working for free.

 

[STRAYPUSSY]

sure gona be different!!!! cant wait to see you drop some cliffs with it!! that thing will rip!

 

[hatchers]

So I guess I should keep track of the countless hours I've spent on my sled? OK no problem I can do that. All that so when I do finally want to sell it, I will add in all my time and labor and shop supplies. Hopefully I'll sell it to someone stupid enough to spend all that money!!! When they could build one cheaper themselves. Think about it !! Doesn'tmake sense to me though. If you got the money and you are wealthy go ahead. As for me NO THANKS!!!!

STFU already!!!

 

[travis]

i dont have the money to go and buy a porche 911 turbo sports car, but at least i dont go on to there forum and tell them how over priced there sports cars are ,and how i would never buy them because i can buy a honda civic for cheaper . to tell you the truth i wouldn't even think of posting somthing so stupid.

just got back from riding on frisby ridge 2 and half feet up high foot and half at the cabin , and rocks everywhere. pray for some snow

Hey Alford it's nothing personal here. I just think if everyone spoke there minds on the outrageous cost's of sleds and parts. Maybe aftermarket companies would quit trying to get rich off one sale. Like your turbo for instance.It's being installed for you as we speak and I'm sure you are not looking forward to the ten thousand dollar bill at the end!! Who would be. I pay it and you'll pay it cause we want power. But we all know you can buy a turbo for a grand. Ya there is more to a kit then just a turbo but 9 thousand worth?? So maybe 2 grand for other parts to make up a kit and the other 7 grand goes to R&D.Which was done 100 sleds ago!!! So you tell me who is getting ripped off here? You and I both and everyone else out there that wants a TURBO. That is pretty good profit "$7000". On a kit that cost $3000!! Any how I am sorry if I said anything offensive to you, I appolagize. To everyone else on here go ahead and bash me for saying it like it is. Half of you are thinking the same thing, I'm just not scared to say it.

 

[powdermuncher]

Travis the only way you can convince me is to build that turbo kit provide customer service -- install it --- pay for the shop --- heat telephone --- pay your employees---workman's comp--- and don't forget the taxes for $ 3000.00
Now go to the shows pay for advertising etc.
If 3 years from now I see you with a good business happy customers --happy employees and enough money and time to go sledding yourself-----
I will gladly apologize and say sorry I was wrong
But if you don't put your money where your mouth is your Opinion is just an uneducated opinion.

You don't know what you are talking about until you have been there

I build most of my own stuff because I like it.
If I would work the same hours I spend in my shop working for someone else I could easily afford to buy the 40-50 grand mod sled --- I like working on my own stuff -- my choice, neither one is right or wrong.

 

[Nikolai]

Hey Alford it's nothing personal here. I just think if everyone spoke there minds on the outrageous cost's of sleds and parts. Maybe aftermarket companies would quit trying to get rich off one sale. Like your turbo for instance.It's being installed for you as we speak and I'm sure you are not looking forward to the ten thousand dollar bill at the end!! Who would be. I pay it and you'll pay it cause we want power. But we all know you can buy a turbo for a grand. Ya there is more to a kit then just a turbo but 9 thousand worth?? So maybe 2 grand for other parts to make up a kit and the other 7 grand goes to R&D.Which was done 100 sleds ago!!! So you tell me who is getting ripped off here? You and I both and everyone else out there that wants a TURBO. That is pretty good profit "$7000". On a kit that cost $3000!! Any how I am sorry if I said anything offensive to you, I appolagize. To everyone else on here go ahead and bash me for saying it like it is. Half of you are thinking the same thing, I'm just not scared to say it.

You sure have your head way up your azz. You have no idea WTH your talking about.

 

[Quicksilver]

^^^^^What powdermuncher said and....go source 4130 for the right price and a TIG. You'll probably need a certified welder cause your selling a vehicle and whats his certification worth? Maybe you can offer knock off kits of that sweet chassis or turbo kit. I'll give you an extra $500 or even a $1000 for your time, it'll help pay for that TIG you always wanted. I'd rather be riding than wrenching.
I'll take the fifth one...let you practice up a bit and make sure your jig is right.

 

[leeko]

Alford

Alford,

Awesome sled. How about some more pics of chassis and on snow?

LeeKo

 

[travis]

You guys win as I have no idea what i'm talkin about.Let's all keep paying outrageous prices on everything we buy as it is the norm now. I'm not sure my head is up my azz, just because i'd like to save money??? Whatever. If you never noticed I said sorry to Alford already.I hope to see one of these sleds on the snow some day as I know it will climb anything around and probably the rock faces themselves. It will probably take a pilot like the Krazy Canadian to rocket it where this sled is meant to go. Good luck and I truly hope you are able to get your sled line up going!! See ya on the snow.

 

[alford]

hey guys ya sledding aint cheap , but it sure kicks azz . Hopefully be riding this sled by the end of next week , and i'll post some pics of it and better ones also. I still have to get the turbo and clutching dialed in on this sled , but definately loseing a bit of sleep thinking about takin it on the snow. Definately stoked to be riding a yamaha 4 stroke this season .

cheers

Rob

 

[ridehard1212]

That is one sweet looking sled!!! Man at that weight its gona climb straight up up up, no stoping it!
As for the guys bashing the cost, when you own a business you cant keep the doors open long working for free.

Yes but on the other hand you can't keep your doors open when there are only so many people able to spend that kind of dough. I hope the best for this guy and im sure he's makin a great product but that's alot of money, almost the price of two extensive builds. Guy like chad build some pretty pricy stuff also, but he's got tunnels and other parts to pay the bills and make the bread and butter.

Again sincerely good luck, hope the best because it is sweet seeing these things out there. Plus local stuff is awsome

 

[rednytro]

i dont get how every one thinks this sled is so expensive ??? they guys from alpine told me their sled with the air ride was around that 47 mark as well , look how much of that sled is stock compaird to this one . like i said i cant wait to see what an awsome rider like rob can do with a sled like this