Examples from my job - why the health care plan is BS

[blue fluff]

These are samples of some of the types of patients admitted to the hospital that I got in just ONE day (I'm one of multiple people who type medical records for this one hospital, so this is only some of the patients).

Patient with diabetic ketoacidosis, diabetes mellitus out of control, not taking insulin

Patient with alcohol intoxication, syncopal episode (passing out), blunt head trauma.

Patient with polysubstance abuse, had seizure from alcohol withdrawal, methamphetamine use.

Patient with uncontrolled diabetes mellitus, noncompliant with diet and medications.

Patient with polysubstance abuse, alcohol, heroin, methadone.

Patient noncompliant with insulin, uncontrolled diabetes

Patient as danger to self and danger to others (psych)

So three patients admitted because they didn't take their insulin, two drug addicts, two drunks and one psych patient (the majority of the psych patients are drug users and "decompensate" because of the drug use and/or they quit taking their medications - they are young and they are "disabled" on SSDI for the rest of their lives, can't hold down jobs)

So why should those of us living a healthy lifestyle pay exorbitant taxes out of our pay to support the repeated hospital admissions for drug addicts, drunks and people not taking their insulin?

Flame away.

 

[skidoorulz]

I think that the hospital should have let 7 of those people die. You can choose which 7.

 

[Ollie]

I think that the hospital should have let 7 of those people die. You can choose which 7.

If they choose to kill themselves, I am willing to let em.
The hospital should be able to take what ever those people own to cover their expenses. Maybe those people should spend a little less on drugs and booze and a little more on medical insurance.

If people know they will get all their medical for free, there is no reason for them to take care of themselves.

Just as with DUI's, when they spend enough money to take care of the problem, they will change their behavior.

 

[snowmobiler]

try being an average american who lost work and insurance and go to see a doc.your in for the biggest surprise of your life.all they want is to milk a patient with a insurance card.that BS needs changed.

 

[cubby]

That's sad and I don't want to respond

 

[Supplicate]

I don't want to respond

oooops, too late

 

[woodzy]

So why should those of us living a healthy lifestyle pay exorbitant taxes out of our pay to support the repeated hospital admissions for drug addicts, drunks and people not taking their insulin?

Because everybody needs the same coverage as those of us that earn a living. It's only fair. Why should joe schmo work if he doesn't want to? Who are we as god fearing, decent minded, out of jail staying, earn a living, tax-paying people to tell these low lifes to get bent?? LOL... They made bad decisions in life and the rest of us get to pay for it for making good decisions. It's the liberal way and it's only going to get worse.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

Now I know why my wife's 3 night stay after having our son was 18k, the actual delivery was another 15k, the care for the preemie newborn was 20k, the ambulance ride down there was 5k and so on.

Hospitals are just as bad as as those initial 7 that came into the ER. All the hospitals see are dollar signs, no matter who comes through the doors. Somebody will pay for the losers and of course we all pay our bills with our money and our insurance.

Hospitals are a business now and have stopped being about care a long time ago. The Hippocratic Oath is now recited by a bunch of hypocrites. Just my 2 cents.


Here it is:
I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:

To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art—if they desire to learn it—without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and **** instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.

I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.

I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.

I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.

Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.

What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.

If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.

 

[snowmobiler]

lets add on half the country thats not insured or high deductable.if they fall,car accident or wreak there sled.just turn them away and drag them losers out to the desert.because theres no profit if they cant pay and the rich snobs will whine about it.
part of the problem is hospitals love a crackhead with a card.

 

[Ollie]

The real problem and the reason hospital stays cost so much has zero to do with greedy hospitals.

It's because they have to cover all the people who can't or won't pay.
It's because they get sued over every little thing for millions.
It's because doctors have to make mega bucks in order to pay malpractice suits.
It's because the feds want you to feel good about yourself so they pay for every crack head and drunk on the planet to abuse the system. They pay for every illigal to get free everything. It's no big deal, the suckers will pay for it, won't we.

 

[Ollie]

lets add on half the country thats not insured or high deductable.if they fall,car accident or wreak there sled.just turn them away and drag them losers out to the desert.because theres no profit if they cant pay and the rich snobs will whine about it.
part of the problem is hospitals love a crackhead with a card.

We're not talking about car accidents or wreaking your sled (if you can afford to sled, you can afford insurance).
We're talking about crack heads, we're talking about drunks, we're talking about people who knowingly engage in destrutive behavior. Why should we pay for them to destroy themselves.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

w r e c k

 

[Sidehiller]

The real problem and the reason hospital stays cost so much has zero to do with greedy hospitals.


It's because they get sued over every little thing for millions.
It's because doctors have to make mega bucks in order to pay malpractice suits.
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I was at the hospital lab the other day. There was a plaque on the wall, something about the "10 comandments of drawing blood". 6 were how to do it correctly, 4 were how to avoid lawsuits. Pretty sad when that is such a major concern. Thank you lawyers. (I wish there was a symbol for flipping the bird!)

 

[PCDOC]

Hospitals are out of control. I had an emergency appendectomy last year (in the middle of sled season) and was in the hospital for less than 20 hrs. My final tally was just over 20K...... that seems a bit much to me. Granted, at the time I was in so much pain I would have given them my left nut.

At a minimum, they should stop covering the illegals for free. That would help a TON!!!!!!! Oh, and while were at it, kick em out of the country.

 

[PCDOC]

Just thought of this!!!! Let the illegals come in for free health care. When they cannot provide any ID we give them a free one way ticket back home. I think the word would get out quickly and they wouldn't come in for free health care anymore.

 

[Ollie]

w r e c k

I'm gonna start sending my posts to you for proof reading.

 

[snowmobiler]

We're not talking about car accidents or wreaking your sled (if you can afford to sled, you can afford insurance).
We're talking about crack heads, we're talking about drunks, we're talking about people who knowingly engage in destrutive behavior. Why should we pay for them to destroy themselves.

i got off subject again?nobody should have to pay there bill.but nowadays they are the ones treated like kings because they are big profit and the other half of the country that lost insurance are being turned away without cash upfront.
ya,everybody in america should have 600 amonth for insurance.but they dont.spending 20 bucks on sled gas helps with not going postal

 

[snocro]

This SH!T is starting to get old - I don't even want to get into it cause its just the start of the morning and I haven't even talked to any clients yet, better just end there, but if the day goes bad I'll be back to let it out!!!!!!!

 

[cb440]

being type 1 diabetic i can tell you if those idiots were paying for there own insulin the would be wasting a drop i could have another cummins or a trubo sled for what it cost me a year

 

[xrated]

The real problem and the reason hospital stays cost so much has zero to do with greedy hospitals.

It's because they have to cover all the people who can't or won't pay.
It's because they get sued over every little thing for millions.
It's because doctors have to make mega bucks in order to pay malpractice suits.
It's because the feds want you to feel good about yourself so they pay for every crack head and drunk on the planet to abuse the system. They pay for every illigal to get free everything. It's no big deal, the suckers will pay for it, won't we.

and because everyone wants the best care, the best knowledge...not to mention all the people who "know" what is wrong and what needs to be done. If peopel would just STFU and let helathcare workers do the job things would be different.

Everyone wants MRIs and CT scans(when a plain x-ray is good) and those machines cost big bucks...cost gets passed on.

Or Drs have to go with the cheaper route first and rule out basics before they can do what needs to be done(thanks to insurance companies).