Drive shaft collar comparison

[suitcase]

Ok here is my story!

I have a 13 pro, when the first hint of trouble came I became worried like alot of you. Then we started seeing alot of spun out ends on the shafts. After the Collars started showing up on the market, I said to myself " oh ya Im in" so I had one coming! It did not take but just a little thought on my part and I had decided to just go with a 12 shaft in my new shinny toy! So now I really don't even think about the shaft issue any more. Other than alot of you that are still having problems, and the ones that can not ride there sled because not all dealers have the Polaris collar.
I have my sled in hand now, and with all my take off parts to boot. Which includes a brand new 13 Drive shaft that never seen one mile. Also A polaris collar for this shaft, but I also have a second collar that I received from said vendor. After I started looking at both collars and the shaft, it became very clear which collar I would use if I still had my 13 shaft in my sled. All I will say is it would not be the Polaris collar.

Ok enough said here are the comparisons. give me a bit to get them all up.

 

[YADA]

new collar

Where I can buy this new collar? It looks really good!

 

[snowmobiler]

it looks to me like the skinny one would pinch the joint better.

 

[kmo]

it looks to me like the skinny one would pinch the joint better.

I agree.

 

[clamlake600]

What are u guys smoking? Lol Happy face all the way!

 

[goforbroke]

Can you weigh them? I want to stay light. I have a hundred miles with no collar and debating putting one on.

 

[samiams2]

. I have a hundred miles with no collar and debating putting one on.

Might be too late....but hopefully you have a good one.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329958

 

[snowmobiler]

What are u guys smoking? Lol Happy face all the way!

1 crimps the area tha needs to be crimped with a big fatty bolt.jmo.

 

[rmscustom]

Why would the polaris clamp have a small radius in the middle of each flat? More clamping pressure where its needed most?

 

[snowmobiler]

a flat area cant crimp as good.jmo.im sure they both work.one is sure prettier.

 

[mountainhorse]

Hey Snowmobiler... Do you even own a Polaris PRO RMK???





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[snowmobiler]

maybe someday soon

 

[m8magicandmystery]

comparisons...??...there isn;t one to be made...Happyface is way toooo far out front

 

[frog]

The smaller one will apply more force than the happy face and in my opinion that is the best route to go. The happy face looks better and is a better work of craftsmanship but I believe the Polaris one will do a better job of holding. With that being said I have the rktek one, which I believe is the least effective but was the easiest to get and was better than nothing at the time. I will install the pol one when it arrives to be safe. IMHO anything is better than nothing with what is available.

 

[mountainhorse]

One other "food for thought" item here.

I believe that there is variation in outside-hex tolerance (size variation) to the extrusion on the aluminum hex for the entire production of the shafts in the first place.

Does one collar excel over the other in order to take up some of that variation????



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[suitcase]

Just to be far. So no one has other thoughts
I have no ties to either polaris or happy face. This was a comparison of the two. I don't know if one is better than the other. Its always good to ask your dealer these kinds of questions, before using aftermarket products.

 

[DLynn]

Just something to think about. What happens if you apply too much clamp force to a Hex? Is more always better?

 

[paulharris]

in the polaris bulletin for their collar it says to torque the bolts to 25 ft/lbs. WTF!!!??? 25 ft/lbs on what appears to be a 6mm screw? perhaps the paperwork that comes with the collar says something different? or that bolt is much bigger than it appears in the pics....8mm? The happy face is 1/4-20 screws, and calls for torque of 120 in/lbs which sounds correct.

7. Torque bolts in 2 steps.
Step 1: Tighten bolts finger tight, approximately to 5 ft. lbs. (6.7 Nm) and check for an equal gap on both sides of the collar.
Step 2: Torque bolts to 25 ft. lbs. (33.8 Nm) and check for equal gap. NOTE: It is important that the hex Allen socket keep aligned with the bolt during the torque process or
bolt head damage will occur DO NOT use a ball end socket for torqueing bolts.

 

[YADA]

Look what we had here in Russia last weekend! The problem is in THE GLUE!!!

So the best way to fix the issue is that very new collar (IMO)!!!

 

[Big D rmk700]

So I got one from edge works that is the size of the polaris one but has a little lip to keep it from working in on the shaft. I go in tomorrow to have mine put on and i am going to have them put the edge works one on the the deive belt side and the polaris on the clutch side.