Drawings for DIY kit?

[n16ht5]

I'm picking up a 136x2 track, skid, and suspension this weekend for a snobike build for my Husaberg FE390. I have access to all kinds of toys to fabricate the frame... but I was hoping to get a hold of drawings to start on.

I haven't rode a snowbike, or even sat on one in person, but Snohawkaddict pretty much sold me into jumping in on this.. so any advice or links would be appreciated. I'm going to put my Skidoo REV 800 up for sale to fund the project.

I found an insanely well built project but I am thinking it might be a bit above my ability as far as the machining work would go, not to mention time.
http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3461032

here is my bike, helpless in the snow without a kit

Thanks

Chris

 

[swedenturbo]

Hi Chris.
Glad you like our GEN II build, an improved design from our first prototype.

Heres some pics from our first prototype build. Something that looks similar as the TS but uses a MXZ snowmobile suspension.
Easier to build since the suspension is more or less complete.
Heavier, suspension can be made better than a suspention from a sled.
You can dowload our drawings here (unfortunately all in Swedish)https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9r55wc4njt12kbf/S9xdE3phKG
Keep in mind that this is the drawings from our first prototype and there are lots of improvements that can be made on this design.

We will upload the drawings of the GEN II design in a couple of months.
Some modifications are made on the kit and I would like to test them and then make the corrections on all the drawings.

Join our Swedish DIY snowbikers FB Group
Google translate can hopefully help you understand most of our feeds
https://www.facebook.com/groups/396600943744321/

 

[CATSLEDMAN1]

might as well improve on things

make your own..........might as well improve on things

1. measure up a mt horse but move the track at least an 1" closer to the chassis . more up under the bike

2. add more side braces between frame and chain case side plate

3. make left hand side panel..........at least the chain case area out of at least 1/4" .250 material

4. don't fiddle with tig welding, preheat tube.........round or square, and weld with a mig welder, cheaper, speedier and better weld integrity

5.go to extreme squaring left side panel mounts/frame/drive sprockets, thats where bearing failure starts.

6. use bearing and mounts as per 90's arctic cats, crude cheap bearing self align and give........... bearing will live, bearing mounts are $2 a piece off the net.

7. sled suspension ok, need to be stiffer than you would guess.

8 cut down track with reciprocating saw , two guys, about 20 minutes, not much hassle, finish with coarse sanding disc on big body grinder, rental store at worst

9. takes 3 times as long to build as you think.

10. float the brake caliper, thats the secret to bleeding and performance.

have fun, start now, done by November

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[Dband212]

I'm on the down hill side of building my own kit. And I can tell you a couple things; it'll take way longer and cost way more than you think to do it right. To make things look professional it takes tons of attention to the details! But one things for sure, The pay off is pretty good knowing you built something like these kits yourself! Good luck on your project!

 

[skidoomt]

Interesting idea. Make the whole snow-bike kit open source like Linux operating systems. Give the end user the plans to make his own setup.

 

[swedenturbo]

Have met many inspired by my build and want to build their own kit . Main reason was the thought that it is cheaper than buying a production kit. If you want a nice build with new components, it is more expensive than many people might think. For me it ended up the cost of 2/3:rd of the cost of buying a ready-made kit . Then add all the time spent, it's clear that it is not as profitable as you might think. Obviously you can use used parts , thereby cutting some of the cost.

My advice is for those who mainly prefer to ride rather than build: Buy a ready-made kit.

For me, home building is not that it is cheaper but is fun!
Just as Dband wrote, it's a huge satisfaction to ride something you built yourself. In addition, something unique that no one else have and hopefully works better. To explore and test new solutions and designs is also an interesting process .Discussing with others of improvments brings snowbiking to a whole new level.
Are you going to build , you should have access to weld, lathe and preferably a mill.

 

[Revy-rider]

Good to see you on Snowest n16ht5! Figured it was only a matter of time until you jumped on the snowbike wagon. Your gonna love it!!

 

[n16ht5]

Starting to rethink the diy idea.. I found a 2Moto Radix kit from a KTM 250SX for sale $1500 locally. I would imagine it would be fairly simple to adapt to my Husaberg and ride until I could get my own homebuilt kit put together (thinking it might take a year or two of fabbing with my limited free time). I don't think I want to make a hack job, especially since SwedenTurbo has fairly well made drawings..

Most of the time I ride it is on firm "cascade concrete" in the spring trying to boondock through tight trees, so I think the 2Moto would keep me happy until then? I watch a lot of Jethro450s videos and it looks like he gets around very well on his 2moto... I have my snowmobile up for sale, but end of season with an old Skidoo trying to sell isn't ideal. what should I do... I know of loads of local areas that would open up to me on snowbike that are not possible on a sled, just because of the tight trees, access, and sidehilling. hmm..............

here is kit

there are lots of very (20min from me) local places like this that are not possible to get to on a sled (I ski tour them now, with a lot of work just to get here)

 

[jfdufour]

Hi swedenturbo, I'm happy to see your blueprints online. I'm about to start some acad drawing to build my own kit.this will save me a lot of design time if I go with a timbersled like design. The tedesled is also an option i'm looking for. Is tedesled blueprint also online?

I have 2 bikes to chose from : ktm 690 enduro r and a yz250 2000 ( 2stroke)

(sorry for the bad English.....i'm french)

Thanks

 

[Dband212]

Starting to rethink the diy idea.. I found a 2Moto Radix kit from a KTM 250SX for sale $1500 locally. I would imagine it would be fairly simple to adapt to my Husaberg and ride until I could get my own homebuilt kit put together (thinking it might take a year or two of fabbing with my limited free time). I don't think I want to make a hack job, especially since SwedenTurbo has fairly well made drawings..

Most of the time I ride it is on firm "cascade concrete" in the spring trying to boondock through tight trees, so I think the 2Moto would keep me happy until then? I watch a lot of Jethro450s videos and it looks like he gets around very well on his 2moto... I have my snowmobile up for sale, but end of season with an old Skidoo trying to sell isn't ideal. what should I do... I know of loads of local areas that would open up to me on snowbike that are not possible on a sled, just because of the tight trees, access, and sidehilling. hmm..............

here is kit

there are lots of very (20min from me) local places like this that are not possible to get to on a sled (I ski tour them now, with a lot of work just to get here)

We have two of the two Moto kits in our group of riding buddies and they do quite well. From what it sounds like your snow is like you'll like it. They do have a hard time in deep powder but go pretty well with a good base. You will probably end up spending some money on spacers to set it up but it's not too bad. I've rode with Jethro450 and he can make that kit go! He is an incredible rider and he rode circles around me while I was digging myself out. In my opinion I'd say go for it especially where your expect your build to take an extended period of time, and atleast in my area you wouldn't lose much money on the kit if you keep it together and sell it when you get your kit done.

 

[swedenturbo]

Is tedesled blueprint also online?

Unfortunately there are no drawings of the Tedesled that I know of.
Not that open source design as our build

 

[snowboarderro]

cad

does anybody have a 3d assably of the sled?

or solidworks part