Do the new Axys sleds have the same drive shaft collar fix as the PRO's?

[dude]

Anyone know if the new Axys sleds have the same drive shaft colar fix as the older PRO's? I know the proto types that they showed off in the spring events had the collar, but I was hoping maybe the production sleds came with a better drive shaft that doesn't need the collar fix. Not that the collar fix seems to have taken care of the problem but... why continue with a band aid fix and not just take care of the issue. Anyway... just curious...

 

[greasemonkey3406]

By the looks of the online parts fiche they still do.

 

[bootz1981]

I don't think so. Never looked. I will in 30 min when I get home.

 

[greasemonkey3406]

I don't think so. Never looked. I will in 30 min when I get home.

Chaincase models don't have it but the quick drive models still do.

 

[dude]

Chaincase models don't have it but the quick drive models still do.

Well... one more reason I'm glad I went with the 3" lugs / chaincase Not that the collar fix didn't work well, but it's still a band aid fix IMO. Thanks...

 

[bootz1981]

My 3" has a 3 piece but fully welded shaft with no collars

 

[dude]

My 3" has a 3 piece but fully welded shaft with no collars

Well that answers the question with 100% certainty! Thanks Bootz...

 

[bootz1981]

no prob anytime

 

[WingNutRacing]

Hmm?

The 3" chaincasers have the 2012 Pro setup driveshaft, or, it looks just like it anyway... I don't recall any issues with that one... That's good.

 

[bootz1981]

The part# from an 11-12 is diff. On a schematic it looks the same as a 15 axys rush. Only with a center driver

 

[Prayn4snow]

Anyone know if the new Axys sleds have the same drive shaft colar fix as the older PRO's? I know the proto types that they showed off in the spring events had the collar, but I was hoping maybe the production sleds came with a better drive shaft that doesn't need the collar fix. Not that the collar fix seems to have taken care of the problem but... why continue with a band aid fix and not just take care of the issue. Anyway... just curious...

Polaris, if your reading this and the 2016's are using the same weak shafts that you came out with in 2013 that needed the collar to hold them together...that's pretty sad. I owned a 2013 Pro RMK and never had a problem. However, when you post quarterly profits in the millions and totally redesign a sled with a new chassis, motor, shocks, suspension, track, gearing etc. how can you justify leaving the only known weak link. Hopefully no one gets hurt from this "band aid ". I know the old saying "if its not broke,don't fix it ", but this was broken on "some" so it did need fixing. When your trying to prove your quality control is as good or better than others this is embarrassing. The auto industry wouldn't get away with this. Please look at a permanent solution to this.
I did snowcheck a 2016, and I'm sure I won't have a problem with it, but there's still no excuse. I'm sure to get flamed on this one
Now someone delete this post so the "other" brands aren't on here trolling for any dirt to discredit the almost perfect sled lol

 

[kylant]

any problem or benefit to run double collars, one on each side of the shaft?

 

[Reg2view]

The collar still on the aluminum shafts is likely as much a product liability decision as it is functional. The personal injury lawyers would have a fine day if someone was injured from a failed aluminum driveshaft that used to be sold with a collar, and then the OEM removed the collar. After a long list of documented failures. Not saying it isn't still a needed fix on the aluminum driveshafts, but don't discount how important product liability is to the OEMs. Product liability and warranty are the two big unknown (with some limited control) costs for the OEMs.

 

[Teth-Air]

Polaris, if your reading this and the 2016's are using the same weak shafts that you came out with in 2013 that needed the collar to hold them together...that's pretty sad. I owned a 2013 Pro RMK and never had a problem. However, when you post quarterly profits in the millions and totally redesign a sled with a new chassis, motor, shocks, suspension, track, gearing etc. how can you justify leaving the only known weak link. Hopefully no one gets hurt from this "band aid ". I know the old saying "if its not broke,don't fix it ", but this was broken on "some" so it did need fixing. When your trying to prove your quality control is as good or better than others this is embarrassing. The auto industry wouldn't get away with this. Please look at a permanent solution to this.
I did snowcheck a 2016, and I'm sure I won't have a problem with it, but there's still no excuse. I'm sure to get flamed on this one
Now someone delete this post so the "other" brands aren't on here trolling for any dirt to discredit the almost perfect sled lol

So if Polaris told you you could take your collar off and it was only there to give confidence to those who were paranoid that the shaft could fail, would you remove it? This is the line that I heard from the Polaris rep. There is very little chatter if they keep it but it would be big news if they removed it. Polaris just wants it to stay quiet. Mine will stay on because I like having the extra strength it provides when I smash the drive shaft on a log.

 

[mountaincat 800]

So if Polaris told you you could take your collar off and it was only there to give confidence to those who were paranoid that the shaft could fail, would you remove it? This is the line that I heard from the Polaris rep. There is very little chatter if they keep it but it would be big news if they removed it. Polaris just wants it to stay quiet. Mine will stay on because I like having the extra strength it provides when I smash the drive shaft on a log.

No, but if the Polaris rep said that Polaris had fixed the problem with the old aluminum shaft and the collar (band-aid) is no longer needed. Now that is something they should have done in 2014.

 

[Teth-Air]

No, but if the Polaris rep said that Polaris had fixed the problem with the old aluminum shaft and the collar (band-aid) is no longer needed. Now that is something they should have done in 2014.

All along they said it was a vendor manufacturing problem and they have fixed it now but it is all about confidence. I am just not sure who needs the confidence, their engineering team or the customer?

 

[Jaynelson]

Seems like a pretty inconsequential detail. As per the lack of posts here since they started equipping the shafts with the collars - the setup seems to work quite well.

 

[AndrettiDog]

Who cares? Ever since the collar went on there were no problems that I heard of. five 2013's in my group and no failures. If it would have been there the whole time nobody would have questioned it. They could have gone with a whole new shaft that could have failed in another spot.

 

[mountainhorse]

Top shaft, extruded aluminum with collar, 7 tooth drivers...Only installed on the QuickDrive equipped AXYS-PRO RMK.

Lower Shaft...Steel with 7 tooth drivers... Only on Chaincase equipped AXYS sleds.

The part numbers are different from the previous generation (11-15) because the AXYS-Mountain drive-shafts carry 7 tooth drivers... the shafts are only available with the drivers.

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[Sage Crusher]

Thanks- MH- At least we really know why the QD is lighter than the C Drive- along with the gears and chain it's self.

Give Polaris something to offer us next year in the 3" QD combination