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HiWaYman92
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I heard all of the hype last year, but haven't heard of any actually on the snow. Worth the money, live up to the hype?
Did anyone end up liking the Team Tied Secondary Clutch?
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IQRIDR
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I've run one the past 2 seasons and ran one all last year on the Pro. It's a gain over the stock secondary without doubt IMO. 73/61 angle for 0-6000 ft, 73-59 for anything above that. Black secondary spring, delrin washers. Just like the guy above said, I pull 8250, 8300 all the time. No more 300 rpm fluctuation like the tss-04.
We stock all of the clutches, springs and helixes.
I got all my clutching parts through SLP and some insight through team industries. It does make a big differance if you have a 163 or a 155, from what I understand SLP does most of their testing with a 155 inch track. I ride a 163" pro that is bone stock at 9000' and higher. I geared mine down to a
19/42, run a 71/55.46 helix, black white secondary spring, slp helix/spring shim, 3 delrin washers(one on both sides of the cup and one on the other end), you can run the stock primary spring and 10-60's or slp blue/pink and
68g mtx weights. I'm not sure what primary set up that I like better yet, I did have better belt to sheave clearance with the mtx weights, some where around .018". But I think that I may have had cooler clutch temps with stock primary spring and 10-60's, going to test that again. It seems that if you run any steeper helix you slip the primary and get inconsistant rpm's and if you put lighter weights in you also slip the primary. Doing all of this makes the secondary spool up really nice and back shift even better. You cut back up a hill and hammer it, the rpms shoot right to 8300 and no belt slippage, also a lot cooler clutch temps. It also runs 8250 on the trail all the time. I have tried many different combinations and this is what I have found to work the best in the powder and is a good starting point. You just have to decide if you want to beat your buddy on the trail or on the hill, even tho it does work good on the trail also but much better in the powder! Going to play with the primary a little bit yet, the secondary spring, and the second angle on the helix! Also going to gear down to 19/43 and a camoplast extreme 163" track only because I tore up my stock track.
19/42, run a 71/55.46 helix, black white secondary spring, slp helix/spring shim, 3 delrin washers(one on both sides of the cup and one on the other end), you can run the stock primary spring and 10-60's or slp blue/pink and
68g mtx weights. I'm not sure what primary set up that I like better yet, I did have better belt to sheave clearance with the mtx weights, some where around .018". But I think that I may have had cooler clutch temps with stock primary spring and 10-60's, going to test that again. It seems that if you run any steeper helix you slip the primary and get inconsistant rpm's and if you put lighter weights in you also slip the primary. Doing all of this makes the secondary spool up really nice and back shift even better. You cut back up a hill and hammer it, the rpms shoot right to 8300 and no belt slippage, also a lot cooler clutch temps. It also runs 8250 on the trail all the time. I have tried many different combinations and this is what I have found to work the best in the powder and is a good starting point. You just have to decide if you want to beat your buddy on the trail or on the hill, even tho it does work good on the trail also but much better in the powder! Going to play with the primary a little bit yet, the secondary spring, and the second angle on the helix! Also going to gear down to 19/43 and a camoplast extreme 163" track only because I tore up my stock track.
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Slick
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I got all my clutching parts through SLP and some insight through team industries. It does make a big differance if you have a 163 or a 155, from what I understand SLP does most of their testing with a 155 inch track. I ride a 163" pro that is bone stock at 9000' and higher. I geared mine down to a
19/42, run a 71/55.46 helix, black white secondary spring, slp helix/spring shim, 3 delrin washers(one on both sides of the cup and one on the other end), you can run the stock primary spring and 10-60's or slp blue/pink and
68g mtx weights. I'm not sure what primary set up that I like better yet, I did have better belt to sheave clearance with the mtx weights, some where around .018". But I think that I may have had cooler clutch temps with stock primary spring and 10-60's, going to test that again. It seems that if you run any steeper helix you slip the primary and get inconsistant rpm's and if you put lighter weights in you also slip the primary. Doing all of this makes the secondary spool up really nice and back shift even better. You cut back up a hill and hammer it, the rpms shoot right to 8300 and no belt slippage, also a lot cooler clutch temps. It also runs 8250 on the trail all the time. I have tried many different combinations and this is what I have found to work the best in the powder and is a good starting point. You just have to decide if you want to beat your buddy on the trail or on the hill, even tho it does work good on the trail also but much better in the powder! Going to play with the primary a little bit yet, the secondary spring, and the second angle on the helix! Also going to gear down to 19/43 and a camoplast extreme 163" track only because I tore up my stock track.
Do u have to change your drivers for the CE ?
Cost no doubt. But the TSS-004 is harder to find now. SLP doesn't carry them anymore (but you can get the helixes/springs).
I have one and the most obvious improvement is backshift. Much smoother over the stock TSS-004. I'd say I hold RPM's better as well. The tough debate is how much cooler it stays. It's a hard thing to compare out in the field.
For starters it pulls about a 14 degree higher helix, better upshift, the back shift is a lot better, clutches are cooler, no spring twist, holds the rpms better in the power, and no reverse clunk. Polaris probably used the tss-04 clutch because that is what was available at the time and they did all there testing with. The tss-04 is a good clutch and has been proven, the tied is just more efficent and an improved version. Its only been available to the public for about a year. I was running a tss-98 on a genII a year before they put it on the '03 vertical escape, witch was a snow check sled and was available only on that sled that year.
