cutler or timbersled intake?

[killerrf]

i like the idea of having some kind of filter system on the engine but dont know which to go with. im kinda leaning toward cutlers... but ive searched and searched on this site and most dont seem to have a " sucking hot air " issue with timbersled and no bog or anything like that. cutlers would definitely be a "cold air" intake though. this would be going on m1000.

 

[AaronBND]

Trust me when I say I have tried them all and just recently I went back to the stocker with the SLP add-on. Could not be happier in over-the-hood snow that we have had lately. BDX Intake clogged up bad in deep powder, Timbersleds are harder to tune to, but do give you good throttle response. Just giving you my experience. Good luck with your decision.

Aaron

 

[aktreekiller]

hey

Stock is the best. Bdxs gets clogged full of snow, timbersled is just junk, never seen the cutler intake. I ran a bdx for 600 miles, and got tired of the constant work to keep it going. I.E. full of snow, holes in vents. I'm running my stock with slp add on, and it runs best with that. Tim

 

[Frostbite]

I have finally decided on the same thing. I am keeping the stock intake with the SLP intake kit. I have to say I have had zero run quality issues with the stock intake with the SLP intake kit.

Yesterday I was going to buy a fuel map for the BDX box but after hearing that Dynotech has never seen a hp gain with an open air intake over the stock intake, I decided to stick with the SLP setup. The open air intakes (so I hear) can become clogged with snow at times and when you stop for a while and oftentimes when you start out there is a bog from the sled sucking hot underhood air.

That compounded with having to make swiss cheese out of my front end to mount the kit and the inconsistent running quality of the setup makes me begrudgingly have to stick with the 8 extra pounds and the stock intake setup.

Now how can one lose some weight from the stock intake? Is there anything else that can be done to make the stock intake even better?

PS: I have a brand new in the box BDX air intake kit sitting on the bench that I will make someone a good deal on. PM me if you are interested.

 

[hypnotoad]

I've got the timbersled intake on my M7, i can't say it really did anything for power wise but kinda hard to compare as i did it during the summer. Didn't do it so much for the power as i did it for the weight lose and the hood vents that would be useless with the stock intake.

If you do go with a open air intake make sure you put the frog skin vent covers on to stop the snow from coming in or you're just going to pack snow all around the pods.

 

[killerrf]

thanks for the replies guys... i dont know why im so hard up for a intake... maybe the idea of getting rid of that hood weight like Frostbite mentioned is the issue for me. sounds like the slp addon with the stock intake works great. should work good with the slp pipe kit im going to get for the m1 also. still...
i keep thinking about cutlers intake! dammit!

 

[rigrat]

I run the Timbersled on my 08 M1000 and have had no problem but i also installed a bunch of vents. Works good but overpriced and installation hardware is too light. Did lose a fair amount of weight off of the front of my sled and stays cool.

 

[Frostbite]

Do as you'd like. I have read a lot of good things about the Cutler intake. I would love to try one as well but, after all my research and getting down to the point of buying the map for one of the aftermarket intakes, I pulled back after learning of the pitfalls.

It's tough to resign yourself to leaving that 8 lbs.of weight you could lose by switching to an aftermarket intake but ask yourself; if Cat with all their weight savings changes to the M series the last several years could find a better, lighter intake system for their sled that worked consistantly in all conditons, wouldn't they have switched over to it by now?

The Cutler and BDX intake kits probably work great on trail sleds but, it's mountain riding where we need the intake to not only work but improve upon the stock setup. I may be wrong but, I'm afraid that just doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[rigrat]

I think one of the biggest reasons Arctic Cat runs their style of intake is for noise reduction. I personally think having an intake system that runs directly over the engine (cat style) lets the incoming air heat up as much as sucking air from the front of the sled where there is usually fresh incoming air. One of the factory updates to my sled was an extra under hood frogskin vent installed in the factory intake. This will allow warm underhood air into motor if factory outside intake holes get plugged.

 

[AaronBND]

I have a Timbersled setup I'd take $125 for, and the BDX setup $55 for. You would have to get the front bumper vents from ebay for the BDX one. They stayed on the sled.

Aaron

 

[ac m5]

dont mean to hog the forum and this might be a bit of a stupid question but do you keep the stock cone coming off the airbox if you use the slp intake?

 

[m8magicandmystery]

go timbersled

 

[Frostbite]

The accordion style intake plenum is removed and a small air scoop with a hole in it is added to the stock intake tract.

Here's a picture: http://www.startinglineproducts.com/image.cfm?type=detail&imgID=1138

Aaron, what didn't you like about the Timbersled intake?

 

[miko]

I like my cutlers set up. It gave me much more throttle response verses my buddies stocker with v force reeds. You can buy replacement belly pan screens from frogskinz.
Only draw back is that it made the sled LOUD as he!! with or without the stock can.

 

[backcountryislife]

Keep in mind that the people that are saying that an aftermarket intake isn't an improvement are right, but they're talking about a 7 or 8. On the 1000 it's a significant increase, and the dynamics of the stock intake are considerably different as well on the 1000.

I would not run an M8 with an intake, and I wouldn't run an M1000 without one.

apples to oranges.


btw, the bdx, when installed right is the best bang for the buck.

We use a snopro bra on the nose so it can be VERY quickly & easily repaired, and two flowrites in the shelf so it can pull from underhood if all else is clogged. You can take the two nosecone sticker vents on the hood instead of the flowrites as well(edit: sorry, I meant in the shelf above the intake).
A touch of creativity & logic can make things work much better than originally intended for much less than the competition.

 

[1010kingcat]

hay i have a new m1000 and a buddys just sold his he has a used but like new timbersled cold air intake kit i was thinking about running it with my diamond s mesh hood now do you have to change any thing to run the intake like fuel box or any thing will it hurt to run the sled with only the intake and nothing else

 

[rigrat]

Every sled is different but i run a Timbersled intake, extra venting, SLP Y pipe and can without a fuel box on my M1000. I did install the KOSO egts to keep an eye on things also.

 

[AaronBND]

Aaron, what didn't you like about the Timbersled intake?

I can't actually say anything bad about the Timbersleds. They are super light, easy to install, and make the throttle response nice and crisp, but they are hard to tune in the 3800-4200 range. They burble and pop a lot because of the way the air is drawn into them at that range. Just never can get them really dialed in on 3 past sleds now. They are a bit louder too!

Aaron

 

[backcountryislife]

I can't actually say anything bad about the Timbersleds. They are super light, easy to install, and make the throttle response nice and crisp, but they are hard to tune in the 3800-4200 range. They burble and pop a lot because of the way the air is drawn into them at that range. Just never can get them really dialed in on 3 past sleds now. They are a bit louder too!

Aaron

On the 7 or 8, if you lose the stock airbox you're going to have at least some slight tuning or loss whichever setup you go with.

The SLP setup, which attaches to the plenum, works well on those sleds without causing any issues that I've seen.

 

[Frostbite]

It seems that the airflow increase gained from the SLP kit along with the added airflow not making the sled tempermental are the biggest benefits with the SLP intake kit.

Now, how can the stock intake (with the SLP kit installed) be made even better?

Can some vents be added at just the right spots to improve cold outside airflow even more without making the sled tempermantal?