Went to Stampede this morning with 2thetop. 1 1/2 inches of icy crust...even at the higher elevations. Below the crust was deep powder...but you couldn't get to it................hard enough to keep the sleds on the trail. We saw one sledder try to climb a small hill...he just ended up rolling backwards down the hill. Even with ice scratchers had to stop several times to cool 'em down!! Had fun anyway!!