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Creek jumping, rock slicing, log bouncing 2015 Springtime Sled Shootout

Reeb

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Set for this weekend in Revelstoke!

We have demo's from Polaris, Ski-Doo, and A/C for the weekend folks! Who's coming to test the sleds in the worst conditions possible?

Anyone can ride in the powder(sarcasm folks) but concrete snow conditions where the probability of sleds coming home in multiple pieces is ridiculously high....not many people dare!

All we hear is how this sled is so good in the powder, or how that sled is the best in waist deep snow.....not this weekend! We test the sleds in conditions we all hate, and weather we all love!

Hahaha....so who's still pounding the gravel and riding this time of year?

I just broke out of the Southern Hemisphere and it's gonna be my first and last ride of the season!
 
I'm stalling as long as possible when they tell me I'm going back!

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Haven't ridden in a couple months, but might go on Canada Day if we find the snow (and the ambition) lol

Have fun!
 
Jay-Lemme know. I'll be in Kamloops and up for another ride.
B-don't have a spare for the entire day. I gotta rob skis off mine for the XM otherwise I'd have a spare for you.

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Oh it'll happen. So will the lake. Plan on stopping by my cousins place and get some inverted time on the board too!
 
Have a great ride! Work has called and BRP wants some money for the new T3.

So I'd better get the priorities in order.......:d
 
Oh what a day! When I get to a laptop I'll fill everyone in. Last sleds on Boulder this year before they closed the gate. Well I locked it up but Shaede was supervising. What a gongshow this time of year! But worth it.
 
Here's a few. The weather came in on us and rained for a good part of an hour and after that we just tried making tracks and pitting each sled against the other. So minimal pics. But here's the unloading point. Life's been hectic this week and it won't settle down for another couple days. But an update is coming soon.
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Ok so after a week or jet setting this great land of ours I'm finally back at home and having a bit of a day off. This is the happenings of the day as told via my blog elsewhere on the interweb.

A little confusion happened in that I couldn't get a T3 for the weekend. And the Polaris Pro was out of action(presumably a bad motor. I joke I joke)
So we had the RTR Demo, and Leading Edge demo's from 2014 instead.
The XM had a SLP y-pipe, Pipe, and CF can.
The M8000 was stock.
The M1100T had a programmer and a few go fast parts.

Partaking in this ride was myself, my father Robin, and my brother Colton.

So the Reeb boys slide into Revy around 7:30am and go for a bite to eat. Then we get ready for the trail up the mountain. Since we are summer sledding, we have to drive to the snow. No parking lots for us. And after about an hour we hit a dead end. You see, in the winter there are various ways to get to the cabin on Boulder Mtn. But in the Summer, there is only one. (File that one away Kris)

So after going up the wrong trail twice, we finally dive into our newest adventure! Getting stuck in the mud!
After going up the wrong road yet again we got stuck on this slick and muddy uphill. So we start backing down. Down down down and over a old bridge we already crossed. Only this time the bridge decides to give way under the weight of the trailer and planks start to break off and fall into the creek. Yayy!
To avoid the hole Dad swings the front end of the truck in the opposite direction and then starts correcting once the front end of the truck has cleared the newly formed hole. The only problem with this is that in order to get the trailer straight and going the direction we need, the front end of the truck has now fallen off the road and is seriously stuck.

So Dad is livid. It's just past 10am and he's seriously loosing his **** all over the situation. Colton and I immediately jump out of the truck and start shoveling mud and rocks away from the tires.

After about 30 minutes of getting eaten alive by mosquitoes and ruining new shoes in the mud dad decides to call BCAA. Only problem is that we have no service. So he starts walking. And walking, and Colton and I don't hear from him for a solid 2.5hrs. I was afraid to sit around and do nothing so I kept Colton busy digging and placing wood in front of the tires. After a bit we decide to start walking up and down the road. At least this way the effin bugs have to catch up to you before they can latch on and suck your blood like the little villainous vampires they are.

Finally after about an hour of walking we decide to head back into the truck and humidity or not, it's naptime. A quick rest later and Dad is knocking on the window with the tow truck driver casting a long shadow behind him. The guy is a massive man. And he's pissed right off.
He brought a rather large highways truck to pull us out and his 2WD dually just wasn't cutting it. It was rather amazing actually. Colton and Dad winched cable from tree to tree and I operated the hydraulics while the burly dude slowly backed his truck up. It was quite the ordeal. But soon enough we were pointed in the right direction and bouncing back down the trail again. After about a minute dad spoke up and asked to no one and everyone if we should still go sledding. Silence ensued. Colton and I looked at each other and slowly looked over at Dad to try and figure out any sort of hint in his facial expression. Colton piped up first and mentioned that he was up for it still. And I added that it doesn't get dark under well after 9pm nowadays. Since it was just shy of 1pm Dad lit up a smile and gave us a "atta boys!" and off to find the snowline we went.....again.

This time is was easy, we hit snow and a large sketchy uphill and decided to unload right there. Dad took off first without waiting for us. said that if he didn't come back in 10 minutes, to follow him. The minute he left I told Colton to start unloading the sleds. I wasn't waiting no 10 minutes to decide whether to follow him or not. Dad, amazingly enough took the 4-stroke first which left me to the XM and Colton to his beloved Arctic-Cat. We ran up the trail only hitting snow patches that were no bigger than the sleds themselves. But after only about 3-400 yards we hit snow for good. Well, that's kinda debatable. We slid over rocks, we bounced off of logs, we jumped creeks, we generally had a real good time. At least I was having a blast!
You have to realize, for me NOT to ride my snowmobile on a regular basis is like not breathing on a regular basis. Seriously, I don't care what conditions I ride in(more on that later) I'm happier than a free range chicken, than a bird in the open skies, or a fish in a catch n release only lake.

Hit the cabin(not literally) jump over the creek a few times(not that we had to, but it was more fun this way) and up the trail to the Top of the World. After a few more sketchy maneuvers around a few runoff areas that destroyed the trail we had our run of the mountain. The trees opened and the sun was shining, I honestly thought that this must have been how Moses felt when he parted the Sea. Glory I tell ya! Absolute GLORY!
And the snow was some of the worst I've ever ridden in. Pocketed out, rained on, sunken and rock hard. Let a little thing like that chase you away and you're not living! We jumped cornices, sidehilled poorly, drag raced up hills and generally tried to squeeze the trigger as much as possible.

After a time we swapped sleds and I ended up on the M8. Fun sled, good power, I didn't mind it except for trying to sidehill with two feet on the boards. Simply would not happen. I had to be wrong foot forward ALL the time. And that's not something I look for in the characteristics of a sled.

We climbed over Wally's World and dropped into Super. Which was a piece of cake. I ran it up the old drag race hill flirting with rocks and bare spots but the M8 handled it like a champ and kept me propelled forward the entire time.

And then I got cocky. Coming down into the SugarBowl was a little more interesting as I didn't want to simply take the trail. Even when the snow is the ****s and nobody has been on the "main trail" for a month, I'll still avoid it like the plague. Seriously, nothing bugs me more than staying on a flippin' trail!

So, as the story goes, I end up taking lead and I'm trying to find a legitimate route down to the base of Sugar. I turned around once, actually I backed up(up hill!) to get out of one situation. But the next hill I tried was too steep to back up. So once I decided that I wasn't going to launch a brand new demo sled off a 10ft waterfall I slowly and carefully inched it around so I could ride it back out of this situation.

In the meantime Dad found another way down and is now yelling at me to "grab a handful and stop being a *****" Well the old guy simply cannot be given the gift of "one-upping" me so easily. So I turn the sled back downhill and fire it up. I lost all braking power almost immediately and aimed the sled for this rock ledge about the size of a dinner table. I figured I could stop on that and creep my way over the ledge and back to the safety of the snow. Unfortunately that plan lasted all of .2 seconds once I realized my brakes only sped up the machine instead of doing what they were intended for. So about 10ft from this table rock I grabbed a handful and aimed straight down. One rather harsh bounce off the aforementioned rock and another 10-15ft off the waterfall I landed only to swerve rather dramatically to clear Dad and his sled before taking a breathe and looking back over what I just did. Thanks to my expert skills nothing was broken and even the Russian Olympic Judge would have given me a Perfect 10 for that landing.

After that we climbed a few nasty lines and lined the sleds up again and raced them uphill in a never ending bet to see who had the fastest sled.(BTW - I won hands down)

After ducking out of the rain for a bit we explored a little bit more, then headed home. Getting back down the minefield was much more simpler than coming up, as was the truck ride back to civilization. We ran into Herb Shaede at the gate and he supervised me locking her up for the Summer. Last sleds on the mountain is something I can now claim!

We stopped at the tow truck yard and gave the guy a 6-pack and a bunch of business cards. He was happy, we were happy, and it was time to head home.

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Ride Reports!

Ski-Doo XM 163" - SLP Y-Pipe and Pipe. Carbon Fiber Can. Max RPM was 7700.

I'm very familiar with the yellow brand and riding the XM was no different to me than hoping onto my Rev or XP's. I felt at home immediately.
On the trail is was fine, never got out of shape and the classic Rotax mid-range punch was there to get the skis in the air and over any obstacle I wanted to clear.
I sidehilled it quite a bit, the snow was crap. But I focused on trying to hold one ski in the air every chance I got. Whether it was one foot on each board, two feet on one board, or wrong foot, the sled handled predictably and I was most comfortable riding it with two feet on one board. I just have to mention, I bolted my C&A Pro's on the sled before I took it, and I think they helped the sled immensely considering our conditions. I was kind of thinking they would hinder the sled, but they were the perfect addition for this type of snow.

Arctic-Cat M8000 LE 162" - Stock with some clutching.

Again, I have time on a lot of Cats. So it was a fairly easy transition. My biggest gripe right off the bat was the loose feeling in the steering. I've complained before, and I know it's a big topic and upgrade point in the Cat's as it is. I love the vertical steering on the previous M-Chassis but I cannot come to grips with it on the PC. I'm just not a fan. I also kept the bars in a fairly neutral 'Mid height' position the entire ride. I tried to slam the bars as low as they would go and I immediately felt out of place when combined with the snow conditions and loose post as it was. Keeping on the topic of things I don't like about it, the skis are pretty horrible in these conditions too. Simply would not go where I wanted it to and the problem was even worse when my much lighter Dad and brother rode it.
Sidehilling was a bit of an issue as well. I'm not sure if it was the track(But that's what I'm leaning towards) but as soon as I tipped the sled into it's balance point, it would hook up and try to knife in the direction of the lean. I couldn't balance the sled on one ski with a foot on each board, or two feet on one board. It was flawless when ridden wrong foot forward, reacted just like I expected it to. But I'm not always wrong foot forward and with my weight and upper body strength I was expecting there to be more of a balance point instead of having to correct with a leg in the side of the mountain.
It handled the trail perfect, I could gripe but it was those skis again. And I jumped it quite a bit, this sled likes to take to the air. Very well balanced when airborne.
And the motor.....we all know the Suzuki is golden. Strong and keeps pulling. I was taken aback by the throttle but that's just because I'm not used to such an easy pull. Still, it was a PITA in the snow we were in as you couldn't hold a steady thumb while trying to sidehill or even just go from one range to another.

Arctic-Cat M1100T 162" - BD controller and some small go fast parts that bumped HP rating just north of 200hp.

This sled actually surprised me the most. This is the first time I've been on the turboed version of the 1100. The power delivery was sneaky. Way different than my T-Vec. This sled, you can actually ride around at quarter to half throttle and not have to worry about the forced air pulling your arms out of your shoulders. It definitely took more effort to pull over into a sidehill. And the same characteristics I despised from the M8 showed up here too. The one thing I thoroughly enjoyed was the steering though. I'd swap a 2-stroke to horizontal steering in a heartbeat. The bars were way too high, I could have used them at stock height just fine. And the ergos were good. I found myself leaning into the panels of the M8000 and barely touching them on the Turbo. I credit the steering for this.

Side by side comparisons -

The only thing we could do was drag race the sleds up hill this day. So we went from the bottom of the Airport and went 3 wide to the top. The XM was actually the sled that had the most problems. Unless I was on it, it was too buck wild and constantly a handful to get to speed. Even when I had my turn on it, by the time I wrestled it straight the other two sleds were long gone. Dad and I even did a rolling start and the M8000 moved away from the XM. Not by a lot, but a couple lengths by the time we hit the top of the hill.
The M1100T was the king of the uphill drags this day. It would stay even with the two 800's for about 100ft or so, then the turbo would pick the skis up about 1.5ft and just take off. I've never ridden a hoverboard, but my time on turbo sleds makes me think I'd be pretty good on one!
It doesn't have the power of my T-Vec or other Yamaha's I've ridden, but I knew it was just a little over 200hp(210hp I think) so I wasn't expecting arm stretching, face lift type speeds. Having said that, I was still impressed with the sled as a whole and a whole new appreciation for that motor under pressure.

To wrap it up, I don't think my foray of 4-stroke mountain sleds is done just yet. Well, let's put it this way, I'm keeping my options open for now.

And here's the last of the pics from up there.

A special thanks go out to RTR Performance and Leading Edge in Kamloops. Adrien and Kevin were kind enough to lend us the demos and the Cat's were even summerized already! Stellar dealerships if you're ever in the area.

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