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Compared Pro Climb and Pro RMK yesterday.

AaronBND

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We took out both 2013's yesterday for the first time and spent time on each of them. We were road only due to low snow conditions, but it was at least 24" of good powder. I feel like we need to make some adjustments to the Pro's suspension. It is stock what the book recommends, but the front felt heavier than the Pro-Climb did carving back and forth. It also felt like the rider input took more on the Pro over the Climb. The throttle response and smoothness was definitely noticeably better on the Climb. Hopefully the Pro engine will loosen up upon break in. Throttle spring tension on the Pro is much stiffer compared to the Climb too.

What are you mountain/powder guys running for suspension setups for around 200lbs? Could care less about trail handling characteristics. We were going to try loosening the front ski shocks to where they are just putting pressure on the springs with weight off. We also were going to crank up the front shock on the skid to try and make the front end feel lighter. How much is good below the spring retainer? Do we need to mess with the rear shock? Any input would be appreciated.

Aaron
 
i thought the polaris was night and day easier to ride handle throw around than a pro climb and was not dissapointed one bit with the power or the smoothness, impressed me i havent had a sled run or feel as good as my new 2013 pro rmk does ever! and i rode only cats before! but mostly i would say you need to set up that suspension thats the key can really make a huge diff. on how a sled rides and all around power!
 
the -13 has stiffer feeling in the front-Maybe from lighter weight
or valving maybe both.
Ditch the sway-its night n day.
(dont care about trail riding and i like -2#)
 
AaronBND said:
We took out both 2013's yesterday for the first time and spent time on each of them. We were road only due to low snow conditions, but it was at least 24" of good powder. I feel like we need to make some adjustments to the Pro's suspension. It is stock what the book recommends, but the front felt heavier than the Pro-Climb did carving back and forth. It also felt like the rider input took more on the Pro over the Climb. The throttle response and smoothness was definitely noticeably better on the Climb. Hopefully the Pro engine will loosen up upon break in. Throttle spring tension on the Pro is much stiffer compared to the Climb too.

What are you mountain/powder guys running for suspension setups for around 200lbs? Could care less about trail handling characteristics. We were going to try loosening the front ski shocks to where they are just putting pressure on the springs with weight off. We also were going to crank up the front shock on the skid to try and make the front end feel lighter. How much is good below the spring retainer? Do we need to mess with the rear shock? Any input would be appreciated.

Aaron
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Whatever you need for smoothness on the front, opposite thinking on the front track shock, tightening it will really trench and on a climb make the front end walk all over in the air and you'll lose about 15 sled lengths over having it a little looser, set the rear length to manual specs for your weight and run the front shock as loose as you can. At least this is what I found running identical PRO setups next to each other and just messing with the shocks. I'm 260 with gear
 
Recommend revalving shocks. Carl's has a good revalving setup that utilizes Fox Zero Pro internals. I also put a Fatboy spring on the rear shock. It makes a big difference. My 13 with those mods feels much better than my wife's 12 600 Pro with the stock setup.
 
Aaron just keep fiddling until you REALLY like it. My 12 felt very similiar, not at all like the 11 that I rode at Dan Adams Clinic. They straightened the rails on the skid which made the sled feeling heavier in the front. I would start by running very little pre-load on the front springs, 1/4" is a good start. I would add a turn on the front TRACK shock spring. Leave the rear where it is or soften it a turn. The Pro responds to shock adjustments really well. Don't be too heavy handed when you make an adjustment, you might go past the sweet spot. That gets people in trouble because then they try more and it just gets them farther away. Try and make one change at a time so you know where the change takes you. If you get confused go right back to your baseline and start over. I really thing that shocks and triple rate springs are the way to go on the Pro but you can do a lot just fiddling with set up.
 
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Whatever you need for smoothness on the front, opposite thinking on the front track shock, tightening it will really trench and on a climb make the front end walk all over in the air and you'll lose about 15 sled lengths over having it a little looser, set the rear length to manual specs for your weight and run the front shock as loose as you can. At least this is what I found running identical PRO setups next to each other and just messing with the shocks. I'm 260 with gear
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This works great, the only thing I would do is if you want the front end lighter feeling tighten up the rear track shock 1 turn at a time till you get what you like.
 
If u want less ski pressure, increase preload on the center shock(front track shock). Run the rear track per recommendations of ur weight.
 
i was just wondering if the skis were up and felt lighter because the cat will dig more with that power claw vrs the pro with the 5.1 ?

i do agree with others small adjustments make big differences

on a side not YOUR A BASTARD FOR RIDING 2' OF POW WITH OUT ME !
HA HA :face-icon-small-hap
 
I think the Cat guys are going to be pleasantly surprised when the get to ride their '13. The new track and the suspension location seems to really help in holding a side hill. Doesn't wash out like last year. Motor is nice and smooth like always and clutching seems to be good for a factory setup. Impressed so far. Didn't have a pro to compare cause the one we were going to take spit out the drive shaft before we left for our trip. I was super stoked to ride it too cause I was darn close to getting one this year.
 
I felt the same thing on my 155' pro, front end felt very heavy for my liking. I do realize this set up is for climbing and gives the sled better deep snow capabilities by keeping more track on the snow. But I like the front end to have a little more lift for flat land riding.

I have played with my shocks a little bit as well but can't seen to find that sweet spot. I'm gonna give the Trac-Link adjustable limiter strap a try to see if that helps any. Seems like a slick system for on the fly adjustability.
 
Their is no doubt I will get the Pro dialed in and love it, but I have to say I was pretty impressed with the Climb jumping back and forth from them right out of the box.

Aaron
 
I would just leave the suspension until you get a 150-200 miles then tweek it. I found my 11 to be real stiff at first then it settled in (got softer).

It was after 200 miles that i started to do adjustments which it didn't need much.
 
In winter powder conditions, the theory has been to soften the two rear skid shocks...and then stiffen them up for spring conditions.


BOTH resulted in better ground speed and less trenching for that particular snow contition.
 
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