Sat on one today. My buddy has an Apex and went over, stood on the side of one at the Yamaha exhibit, put his weight into it and put it on its side. Then he went over to the Cat exhibit, stood on an 1100 turbo, put his weight in it and put it on its side. He then told me "See. Its the same as the Yamaha and I'd rather have the reliability of the Yamaha." We then ended up at the Polaris exhibit. He climbed aboard the 2013 RMK, stood on the side, put his weight in it, and when he rolled it on its side he just about rolled it over on top of himself. He couldn't believe the weight difference. Then he checked out the belt drive, running boards, and etc. He then promptly marched back over to Yamaha and spent the next 45 minutes yelling at the Yamaha reps that they better start getting serious about weight and technology or just get out of the snowmobile business. Quite the day!