Collar for driveshaft after it has broken

[skibreeze]

So, I was just thinking about all the guys that don't want to put a collar on their shaft before it breaks for fear of warranty denial. How about making a collar that can be bolted on after it has broken so the sled can still be ridden out?

You'd just need to line the shaft back up, use a hammer to pound the flanges back around the shaft or finish breaking them off and install a collar to hold it together to ride out.

Personally I'd put a collar on before it broke but some people.....

 

[whoisthatguy]

That broken joint is not loaded in pure torsion, for which it is conceivable, but not likely to design a fix. That joint has large moment forces that are attempting to pry that end cap out of the center section, and large shear forces from the track that are pulling backward on it. Since there is essentially nothing to hold onto at the end cap, the likelihood of designing a fix for all that, rapidly approaches zero. The only field fix is to keep a spare steel driveshaft in your truck, that someone can go retrieve. But you could also tow it out in the time that is takes to retrieve that driveshaft and return to fix it.

 

[elvis1280]

there is NO WAY THAT THE COLAR WILL VOID THE WARANTY. It is bolted on and if the shaft breaks then you take off the colar! nothing was done to the stock drive shaft and it was not changed in any way!
If you put rivets through it (which i think would be the fix) that would void the waranty. Not a a part that can come off before you take it in?

 

[littleanthony]

there is NO WAY THAT THE COLAR WILL VOID THE WARANTY. It is bolted on and if the shaft breaks then you take off the colar! nothing was done to the stock drive shaft and it was not changed in any way!
If you put rivets through it (which i think would be the fix) that would void the waranty. Not a a part that can come off before you take it in?

I've seen pics of riveted driveshaft failure already.

 

[SSWIM]

there is NO WAY THAT THE COLAR WILL VOID THE WARANTY. It is bolted on and if the shaft breaks then you take off the colar! nothing was done to the stock drive shaft and it was not changed in any way!
If you put rivets through it (which i think would be the fix) that would void the waranty. Not a a part that can come off before you take it in?

Rivets will NOT hold if the glue lets go. Already been tried by a member here. Collar is the way to go. You are right, it should not void warranty.

Sam

 

[BGYDOP1]

Fix

Why should there be Home Remedy "Fix it's" for a $12,000 sled ?

 

[POLZIN]

Im not at all convinced the "fixes" will be effetive to keep the drive shaft from breaking in the first place. I highly doubt it would work after the fact

 

[knifedge]

--Collars should not void warranty anymore than a gas rack would. If it does, never buy a Polaris again.

 

[Goin For Snow]

NO collar, wait for polaris (IF) fix, bring to dealer=no ride
Collar, possible not warranty new DS=Ride
easy decision in my book. Its not like its a 2000.00 warranty claim your gambleing with.

 

[knifedge]

--No collar = no ride

 

[Leaf27]

Why should there be Home Remedy "Fix it's" for a $12,000 sled ?

Because the drive shafts are breaking.

 

[traveler]

I'm going to carry a pale of glue in my burandt tunnel bag!
Mix it up and spread it evenly around the shreaded end of the shaft.

 

[Gager]

Im not at all convinced the "fixes" will be effetive to keep the drive shaft from breaking in the first place. I highly doubt it would work after the fact

Right, if you're going to buy a part for insurance, buy and install the collar. Keep in mind that the collar is not a cure-all. IMHO, the collar will not keep the glue from failing if you have bad glue; however, it will likely get you back to the truck. If you're running a collar, I would highly recommend regular inspection in case the glue does fail. I would not ignore any new vibration when out riding - the glue may have let go.

--Collars should not void warranty anymore than a gas rack would. If it does, never buy a Polaris again.

It is unlikely, but the collar could void warranty IF it caused a different mode of failure. Let's say that the collar puts too much pressure on the aluminum extrusion beyond the reach of the factory metal insert. This COULD cause a stress point that leads failure even if the glue does not fail. I think this is unlikely, but it is possible.

What if a class action law suit was filed to reimburse customers for the cost of retrieving their sleds after a drive shaft failure? Polaris would be happy so many people chose to install the collar. We'd still be screwed because the lawyers will get all the money!

 

[nuggetau]

I'm going to carry a pale of glue in my burandt tunnel bag!
Mix it up and spread it evenly around the shreaded end of the shaft.

That is not Burandt approved...................... not yet any way, send him a check then it will be approved.

 

[backcountryislife]

I would think that if you shaved off the loose pieces you could get a thick (I mean wider than the current fixes) collar on the center section, put it up to the end shaft, and slide the collar over the end, then tighten it down. Like how the E disco works on a newer rubi... same basic idea. It wouldn't be perfect, but I'd think it would get you home.

 

[BGYDOP1]

Really??

Because the drive shafts are breaking.

Guess I'll have to fall back on an XM..

 

[skibreeze]

I love all the lazy boy engineers saying it can't be done. I have the imagination to make it happen, just missing the tooling.

 

[POLZIN]

I love all the lazy boy engineers saying it can't be done. I have the imagination to make it happen, just missing the tooling.

Ha ha Your a funny guy ! bring your imagination and a sled to work with. I've got the tooling !

 

[Pro-8250]

On the warranty issues? You may want to take a look at your warranty disclosure.

 

[High Velocity]

Collars like these ?

Posted on Snow and Mud by Tyson.H

Well today i built some clamps to clamp over the driveshaft to strengthen around the area where its breaking. They can be installed on both sides, and while the shaft is on the sled, here are some pics. There available at Parkland Motorsports for $70. If the glue does fail this clamp will keep it together.

Done fishing. Let's go sledding !!