clutching, slp pipe 09 m1000 MTX or is there better

[WyoBoy1000]

Just wondering how many people have tried the actual slp pipe clutching with MTX weights per slp's instructions. I am running the slp full exhaust bdx intake and oil delete on a 09 m1000 162. Want to know if they work or if there is something better. who's happy, who's not.

 

[spanky]

07 m1000 had 68g mtx ground to 67 with a white slp spring when I purchased it. with slp y and single. slp said 7800 rpm with pipe set up. tachs 74-75 at best. pulls pretty hard but I junked the mtx and ground my own weights to 63 with a blue spedwerx and a rkt secondary green spring. tachs 75 steady. would also like to know how to tach 78 and hold it with track speed.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

slp is telling me with there recommendations it will tach out and hold. The recommended weights for 6-8000ft are MTX weights 74g, 3g in outer hole, 1g in inner hole stock clutch springs and a 44/36 helix. They say it hit rpm and holds. But it seems like no one has tried it to the exact specifications.

 

[ditch1000]

MTX Weights, M1000

I had mine set up as per their specs - 3000'-7000'. I believe it is 77g with 2g in the outer hole (done by Howie's in PG). Sled pulls 7600-7750rpms on pulls and holds. It has a little bit of a bog around 6500; I loosened off the 38/36 RKT secondary to the 2nd softest setting (geen snopro spring) and works pretty good; still a little bit of a bog. I just had 57/63 gears installed this week, so they should top it off. I can post on Sunday to see how it runs; gone sledding for 3 days.

 

[Bearcat]

Pal has also M1000 -09 with SLP pipe. Clutch is stock and elevation 0-3000ft. We haven't played with the clutching yet.

BUT. It had also bog around 5000-6000 rpm. We added little fuel to that range (lo and mid) and it seemed to help. You should try too?

 

[tm8]

With the stock spring I would try some 73gr wts if most of your riding is at 7 to 8000 ft. Im not saying the mtx wts are bad just dont think a guy needs to buy them. With a little stiffer spring you could go 74 to 75grms probly.Is your secoundary stock. That 44/36 helix works good to in the 800 miles ive put on it.The cat wts work better than the mtx wts in my opinion.

 

[tm8]

What fuel box are you running?

 

[WyoBoy1000]

The fueling is not the problem, I actually was adding fuel to the mid range but the closer my clutching gets the closer I get to slp bd #'s. Right now I'm running the slp full exhaust, bd box, bdx intake and oil delete, slp 44/36 helix, stock springs, and ground some cat 80g weights down to 75g leaving most of the tip weight. just over 5000ft I'm pulling right about 7600rpm with either belt. the 46 has better bottom end and the 60 has more top end, and not as much bottom end, but I removed some fuel from the mid range with the 60 on and got it working better but not as good as the 46. I mean the 46 off bottom flat snapped up to about 35-40mph but then slowed down the 60 would start pulling real hard around 35mph. But the top end falls over when you put it to a hill. It will still pull 40+mph track speed with the skis in the air barely moving over the top of a hill. Last when I'm on the trail in climbs right up to about 80mph and then slowly climbs up(real slow) my 07 with stock clutching would flat rip all the way up to 95mph and then slowly climb. Hit 92mph once on the 09 and blew a belt, If I old it down for any period of time at all on the trail it blows the belt to shreads.

But still no one that is running the complete slp recommendations?

 

[spanky]

ya man buy it up and let us know.

 

[AKCAT]

WYOBOY1000, How do you like your 09 M1000???
I have a heavy modded 07 1000 and was thinking about a buying and keeping a stock 09 M1000 in my stable.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

Love it, but no need to get one if your going to leave it stock, a well tuned 2010 m8 will beat a stock m1000, within 5hp and something like 35lbs lighter. Only use of the m1000 is to mod and crank the 200hp one the table out.

 

[mrquick68]

WyoBoy - i think having 80g weights ground to 75g is not a good idea. unless you used CNC machine or machinist tooling to grind the weights, there is too much variable between the three and it get things out of balance. 1g per weight is as much as someone should grind off by hand IMO.

I'm running the CPC weights and like them better than the MTX i've tried in the past. The MTX stink to adjust compared to the CPCs.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

WyoBoy - i think having 80g weights ground to 75g is not a good idea. unless you used CNC machine or machinist tooling to grind the weights, there is too much variable between the three and it get things out of balance. 1g per weight is as much as someone should grind off by hand IMO.

I'm running the CPC weights and like them better than the MTX i've tried in the past. The MTX stink to adjust compared to the CPCs.

I am very particular and have a scale that will show 0.0000 grams and all weights are cut to the same profile. Not a permanent fix either just enough to get one ride tell the right parts come in. I am going to try slp's exact recommendation so if it doesn't work I have BitcI-Iing grounds, and so far I havent found a single person that has run exactly what they recommend.

Looking for someone that has run the exact weights springs helix and belt with the right mods.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

My clutching is now setup to slp's exact recommendations, exept I may have to shim my spider(its close though) I'll find out tomorrow if its cracked up to what slp says it is.

 

[spanky]

can't wait. I have found killer flatland set ups but would like to see one that works in the snow and hills. Will be tuning tomarrow also. I have never seen a m8 come close to the my 1000 on the hill. Its a torque thing. let us know how it works.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

well I was riding around 5800-6200 when checking my rpm. I was clutched for 6-8000 slp recommendations(060 belt). On the lake I would pull 7400 right off then climb to 7610 and I would run out of room, small lake. On the hill it seemed to pull around 7550 but on my recail it was in the 7700- 7800 range but I still think there was more to be had track speed would increase over 40 real quick up above 50mph but conditions weren't good so I could watch consistantly . But I was a beating a 06 m7 cutler dragon 1000 156 so I stopped worrying about it and road. It did run strong, a little delay off the bottom once in a while ( belt also has 200+ hard miles on it) but prob a fueling issue and I am up to 51 psi and 16+ points on the bd box at the high pos. at 7500 and 7800. To keep my temps at 1157 and holing on long pulls. But if I get anymore power out of it I need to find a way to get less transfer,

 

[spanky]

Sounds like your about where i am. I run higher temps. #s are lower. makes it snappier and never had trouble. I bounce into 77-78 but never hold. don't get me wrong it runs better than most but would really like to see 78. What primary spring ?

 

[WyoBoy1000]

stock springs, I think I'm going to try a secondary spring with just a little softer finish rate and a 46/38 helix just to see, and prob drop the weight a little as well. I'm asuming with that setup I will also need a little stiffer primary spring.

 

[spanky]

slp's white works good. I found the m's don't like tip weight but might work for you.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

A friend has a 46/40 so we are going to switch back and forth just for the heck of it.