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clutch shims on diamond drive shaft

well serviced diamond drives on 05 m7 and 10 m8, put everything back together and now i found a shim for clutch that goes behind it on dd shaft. thinking there was only two on the m7 but not sure of m8. both have two now. anyone know what they might have on theirs? dont have clutch aligning tool and never messed with shims or had belt issues. thanks
 
If you haven't had issues, leave the shims the way they are... Here is a simple way to do an alignment. Measure the distance from the secondary clutch sheave to the bulkhead.Then, take out the secondary bolt, lift up the sled, start it up and spin the track for a few seconds. Measure again. That is the amount of shim space you should put behind the clutch. This is way more accurate than using a clutch alignment tool.
 
nah the simplest way is to get a clutch offset tool ..
i have a new in bag 1.655 one right here i could send you 25 shipped
 
nah the simplest way is to get a clutch offset tool ..
i have a new in bag 1.655 one right here i could send you 25 shipped

Waste of 25 bucks and less accurate. If your motor mounts aren't new your reading with the tool will be wrong. If your motor mounts are new, they haven't settled yet and are still wrong. The more power you run, the more your engine twists, the more the tool is wrong.
 
well crap. put the extra one back on m8. thought the m7 only had two to begin with. guess have to do some measuring check things out again. thanks for all the input. jethro- the shims are on dd shaft. slide on and are inset in the housing. then clutch goes on against them.
 
Waste of 25 bucks and less accurate. If your motor mounts aren't new your reading with the tool will be wrong. If your motor mounts are new, they haven't settled yet and are still wrong. The more power you run, the more your engine twists, the more the tool is wrong.

no that doesnt make sense what you said ..

no mater if your motor is 4 inches out of alignment ,, the clutch offset tool will always measure if the secondary is proper offset to the primary.
 
In fact its way more acurate..to use an offset tool because of the very points u expressed.if the clutches are in perfect alignment it doest matter where the bulkhead is in relation..also how are u measuring..and what is the amount of error in that method..or are u just eyeballn it.. lol
 
In theory the secondary should align itself without the shims there. Not sure if this would work on the splined shaft of the DD. Using an alignment tool is the best way...
 
If you use the loose bolt/run method you will still not have it right. I don't care how many motor mounts you have, the motor will still twist when you a pulling hard. I sit mine in about a 1/16" and have not had any belt problems. Works for me anyway. No one rips up a belt at idle
 
pretty easy to put some stress on the motor mounts. hit the gas. stop quick with brake. bam... aligned clutch. If your motor mounts are bad, the second the clutch engages, the second your entire motor moves. Another easy way and most accurate way is to put a brand new belt on. after break in do a short pull, take the belt off and inspect. One side will most likely have more of a gloss or shininess to it. That means that side is slipping more. Adjust accordingly several times till you get it just right. If your running a lot of power, the clutch alignment tool just doesn't do the trick. some get lucky tho. If you want to use the tool go ahead, I just recommended doing it the fastest, easiest, cheapest way. No need to spend any money or make a trip to the shop.

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/foru...xf-8-blown-belt-2-1-day-after-clutch-mod.html
 
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