Cam roller and pins..pulling

[gonriggen]

I noticed I was missing 2 rolling cams, one broken, the other missing.

Anyone know easy way to pull the tiny PIN SPRINGS out
And if I decide to change the others out,
1 to 10 how easy. 10 being hard.
Not how to pull pin, and pin spring holding them in.
Also, how does anyone replace plastic ones.
2010 m8

Looks like they put two different roller cams in m8, then in my m6

Thanks

 

[RACINSTATION]

Which clutch are you looking at? Primary or Secondary.

There should only be 1 spring per clutch, no tiny springs.

 

[arctic2009]

You need to disassemble the secondary then drive the spring pins out from the inside of the sheave. The job isn't hard at all. Then you take an allen wrench and push the pins out from the inside. Id would give it like a 1, maybe 2 since you have to disassemble the clutch. They make hi temp rollers as an accessory kit for those clutches.

 

[Cat800]

If you are talking about the secondary.

Replace all the rollers with rock rollers or arctic cat has a set that is better than stock.

I used a piece of all-thread and some big washers to take the tension of the secondary spring while removing the helix screws. I would advise to replace the helix screws with new.
You might have to heat up the helix with a small torch to loosen the Loctite on the screws.

I mark the sheaves with a magic marker so when you put the secondary back together you can align you marks back up. I do this because the secondary is balanced and like to keep it they way it was when it was balanced.

Use a punch or a drill bit if you do not have a punch to remove the roller pins.

When putting the secondary back together, guide the helix inbetween the rollers and tighen the all-thread to compress the spring to install the helix screws.

 

[gonriggen]

Where do you get rock rollers?
Also I do no see any hex screws

So do I need to compress the spring first?

Guess I just not where to start.
Looked at pic at on line manual,,,still like confused.
Tx

 

[JeepThing]

www.cpcracing.com Dale has very good rollers. If they are not listed just call they have them.

 

[arctic2009]

Where do you get rock rollers?
Also I do no see any hex screws

So do I need to compress the spring first?

Guess I just not where to start.
Looked at pic at on line manual,,,still like confused.
Tx

Sounds like you should let a dealer do it..

 

[Cat800]

http://www.bd-xtreme.com/bdxrockrollers.aspx

Or look online for arctic cat rollers in arctic cats assesories. Pm FreeAgent she is a good source for parts and a manual.


The 9 hex head screws are on back side of the sheave closest to the motor.

It's not difficult but it might not be a bad idea to find a buddy or guy that does sled work and help/watch him do it. Or buy a manual, that will guide you threw the process

 

[gonriggen]

Ok, I opened my eyes and found the screws,
How much tension do you apply using all - thread. To take tension off springs?
Little, a lot ....?
I notice when I cranked on it tonight, not much room to put rollers in,
So assume, you remove the pins, put it back together, and then put in the cams

Since I had one pin missing I got one replaced (roller rock)
With out taking back plate off

 

[arctic2009]

Ok, I opened my eyes and found the screws,
How much tension do you apply using all - thread. To take tension off springs?
Little, a lot ....?
I notice when I cranked on it tonight, not much room to put rollers in,
So assume, you remove the pins, put it back together, and then put in the cams

Since I had one pin missing I got one replaced (roller rock)
With out taking back plate off

The clutch needs to be completely disassembled and the spring pins need to be punched out of the inside of the clutch. The roller pins then need to be pushed out from the inside so you can put the new rollers in. I would suggest having someone who knows what they are doing, do it for you.

 

[johnyrocket]

If you have a bud that works on sleds buy a 12 pack a go see him or her.
Depending on the clutch mark the hole the spring is in and mark the out side cover to the helix, use the all thread to hold in place until you have the bolts off then remove all tread slowly. now heat up the bolts on the back of the crutch a little not to much, remove bolts now you have the thing in pieces push out the pins install new rollers and pins. install helix and use lock-tight on bolts install spring and cover plate use all thread to compress spring.

Not to sound like a a** but a 8 dollar manual on line is priceless, I work on all things motorized and things that are human powered, my manual for my sled is the best 8 dollars I ever spent on my sled

 

[boondocker97]

You need to heat the small torx screws holding the helix in with a torch before you remove them. Otherwise there is a high chance you will strip out the heads or twist them off. Job jumps up in difficulty if this happens. Replace them with new ones if they look questionable at all.

 

[Cat800]

Go look online for a exploded view of the secondary. Will help you get a idea.

Like I said pm FreeAgent and get a manual.

 

[gonriggen]

Tx,
I have parts manual, which gives pics
But not a service manual, if that explains everything how to do things
Believe or not, work on sled all the time, took dd drive out.
Just never really ever done clutch.
So that is why I was looking for some insight.
I not sure I would done the heating of helix before I asked the question.
And I did not realize you undid the all-thread after you got plate.
Do you know what you ,torque on the bolts going back in.
Dealers is 40 miles....might still make the drive....

Thanks,

 

[arctic2009]

call the dealer and have a service manual ordered and sent to you.. or check D&D's youtube page, they disassemble a clutch and put a shift assist in on one of their videos. It will give you an idea what is involved.

 

[jdrice]

I just bought a 10 m8 and all three of my rollers were broke. The only issues I had was the freaking tork screws. So I replaced all of mine with Allen head screws. But over all the job was easy.

 

[Bowfisher]

I just bought a 10 m8 and all three of my rollers were broke. The only issues I had was the freaking tork screws. So I replaced all of mine with Allen head screws. But over all the job was easy.

What kind of Allen head screws did you use? If it wasn't a button head I believe you need to have the secondary countersunk to avoid hitting the diamond drive when your clutch opens all of the way up.

 

[jdrice]

Yep. They were 10-24 button head Allens