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Buying a turbo'd dragon?

thinking about buying an 09 dragon with a pump gas boondocker turbo. before i jump into it i wanted to get some opions/advise...

are the pump gas kits laggy?
are they really finnicky?
most of all am i going to regret buying it?

thanks!:face-icon-small-ton
 
Hopefully this doesnt start a pissing match. the problem isnt the turbo, the motors on those sleds were bad to begin with, putting a turbo on them only makes them more likely to burn down.
 
I bought one last season, and I have loved it, I haven't really heard many turbo motors going down.
 
I bought one last season, and I have loved it, I haven't really heard many turbo motors going down.

You haven't heard of any of the dragon motors burning down? The fact that polaris recalled and then replaced half of the motor components leads me to believe there was at least a small problem.
 
the same motors that polaris couldnt keep running for some reason seem to be fine once turboed... maybe the fuel mapping from the controller or the extra cylinder pressure. idk. but a turbo kit seems to be the fix for that motor with the most fun factor haha
 
I agree once you boosted and fueled it it, seemed to run great! havent heard of Many boosted motors going down! normally asperated Yes! and if those people had taken control of their fuelling from day one thay may have been Ok also!
 
theres alot of factors that go into it, how many miles on the sled? what changes have they done to the sled already?What turbo is it? Do you like to tweek things after every ride? reed change out after every 3to 400 miles.?(depending on how much boost you run) motor knock sensor still in? polaris is also known for stripping the top gear in the chain case if you dont tighten the chain every couple rides.But for sure the Turbos are a blast!! and if your the type that likes to work or tweek things every couple rides go for it !!but if you dont like to open the hood!! walk away!!
Just my 2cents :)
 
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800 miles total, 400 boosted... boondocker pump gas kit probly around 8 pounds of boost! dont mind tinkering with things at all!

so dont be worried about the motor problems that the naturally asperated ones have?
 
You haven't heard of any of the dragon motors burning down? The fact that polaris recalled and then replaced half of the motor components leads me to believe there was at least a small problem.

you should really read what you comment on in quotes. I have a boosted dragon and a stock dragon and have no engine failures. Boosted dragons do not have very many failures. Just stay on the band wagon of not knowing what the hell you are talking about
 
800 miles total, 400 boosted... boondocker pump gas kit probly around 8 pounds of boost! dont mind tinkering with things at all!

so dont be worried about the motor problems that the naturally asperated ones have?

theres always a chance that its going to go either way. there are several dragons on here with over 3000 miles on boosted motors with out having a problem. I have had a stock dragon that I bought new with over 1800 miles and zero problems. Riding styles have alot to do with some of the failures. I bought my turbo dragon for less then the stock dragons were going for. I am running 9pds of boost and love it. It has over 1300 miles on it.
 
you should really read what you comment on in quotes. I have a boosted dragon and a stock dragon and have no engine failures. Boosted dragons do not have very many failures. Just stay on the band wagon of not knowing what the hell you are talking about

Youre cute when you say silly things...

There are more than a few people who have had issues with this motor, good for you that YOU haven't but that doesnt change the fact that next to the 900 this motor has been one of their worst.

Im not going to argue with you, I've had size on me with less then 2 miles on it (what wold I know)
 
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Im not going to argue with you, I've had size on me with less then 2 miles on it (what wold I know)

I know there are problems but he asked about the turbos and my first post specifically said TURBO DRAGONS have very few failures. if your motor only went 2 miles then that sure sounds like no oil. the biggest problem with these motors is when most people fix them they put a new top end on them and say its all fixed. Well something caused it to fail other then the top end so the problem is not fixed. everybody knows they are lean through the mid range so why would you hold in the midrange (not saying you but in general) You ride these things hard and fluctuate the throttle when cruising. It has worked for me and I swear by it. Many engine builders say this is a good strong motor but the mapping is not the best but you don't have to worry about it if you ride it like a mod sled. It is still a 2stroke.
 
not saying anyone is wrong or right, but my 2010 D8 had over a 1000 trouble free miles THEN got turbo'd(bd pumgas w/intercooler) and still never missed a beat.
 
Some of the motors suck no matter what you tried to do to fix them, some never had issues. I've got a pro snowchecked and a silber turbo on the way, hope mine is one of the latter not the former.
 
Some of the motors suck no matter what you tried to do to fix them, some never had issues. I've got a pro snowchecked and a silber turbo on the way, hope mine is one of the latter not the former.

hope it all works out, I guess if I had a bad one I would be pissy too.
 
FWIW, I bought my '09 Switch new, ordered a full SLP system before I picked it up, put on a PCIII at about 400 miles, and ran the hell out of for 2000 miles. I had made arrangements for the updated top end (on warranty), and lost one cyl. just before installation. I've now got 5000 miles on it, and aside from Poo's ****ty airbox, haven't had any problems. My air box fix=buy a turbo! Going to check the bottom end, freshen up the top with top shelf aftermarket pistons (or maybe 'The Fix', not sure about the raise in compression, yet), and roll on!! The fuel mapping was the main cause of the failures, the second would be the short pistons vs. large bore allowing excessive 'slap' from what I've read/seen.
 
There are a few reasons why the CFI seems to hold up to boost.


Red Beard makes an excellent point that many people I believe often disregard. The factory air box leaks like a 8-71 Detroit Diesel leaks oil. Anybody ever checked the throttle bodies in 400 miles? If you have, then you know how much debris is getting sucked into the motor on a stock CFI. The air box allows excessive belt dust , and other debris ie (metal from cutting running boards and drop n rolls) that accumulates under an engine. Don't even try to argue with me on this. I've seen with my own eyes what ends up under the engine after one of these actions have occurred. Dust, dirt, and pollen from summer strorage, leaf remains, pinecone remains, etc. Don't laugh, I've got a 2010 in my garage right now with 1/8" of sand throughout the motor dept. The turbo'd CFI does NOT have this issue.


Turbo kits of course bring the fuel requirements up to where they need to be. The stock mapping does not provide adequate fuel especially in the mid range. Anybody that has run EGT's with a 20% increase in fueling on a stock CFI knows what I'm talking about.


The other reason these motors seem to thrive on boost is the extra heat the turbo creates most notibly on the piston. Many believe that when this motor was updated, often times the piston to cylinder clearance was on the high side or exceeded specs. Heat cause the piston to expand and many feel expand to the perfect size....on boost.


The last thing is the fact that the guy running the turbo isn't the typical non-maintenance guy that doesn't understand mechanical aptitude, non-engine warm-up, check oil every 3 rides kind of guy, runs old gas, stores sled out side during summer months. The turbo guy generally is picky, performs all of his own maintenance, and brings sled into the garage after every ride or trip and verifies sled is in optimum condition.
 
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