burn?
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Bad thoughts. Open up the riding area???
The trees really have grown in the last few years...
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PowderMiner
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Fire seems harmful, and is, particularly when destroying personal property or infrastructure. The real truth is that fire is an important part of our regions ecosystem. Many of our forests have historically faced significant (forest replacement) burn events at least every 200 years. These left forests healthy by promoting vegetation selection (spacing, species segregation, and ridding disease/bug trees, as well as built up fuels), Ecosystem diversity/variation (meadows, thickets, bogs, etc), and significant habitat diversity (standing snags, varied wetlands, varied open areas, etc).
Along with natural fire with only nature to control; first nations used fire to clear land, drive game, and develop resources. With more frequent uncontrolled fires the landscape would have been very different; allowing for fires being less frequently catastrophic and an overall healthier ecosystem.
Obviously we have to manage our forests and other open spaces because of safety and public sentiment, but be aware that we will have catastrophic events and since most of us haven’t been around for the last 200 years we may be shocked to see the scope of future fires in areas even thought to be “natural”.
In certain areas there are active forest management practices attempting to mimic natural process. This is a great application of science based best management practices. I fear that it is at a tremendously low effort and only targeted at thought “most” likely man caused event areas. As our once logged forests reach unnatural densities, logging roads are closed limiting management access, disease spreads, and we presume that fires start only where people recreate; we will see some of the biggest burns ever.
How we manage the forests then will be interesting.
Houses, shops, and barns can be rebuilt… please be careful, especially with your family and just get out of the area when evacuated.
Along with natural fire with only nature to control; first nations used fire to clear land, drive game, and develop resources. With more frequent uncontrolled fires the landscape would have been very different; allowing for fires being less frequently catastrophic and an overall healthier ecosystem.
Obviously we have to manage our forests and other open spaces because of safety and public sentiment, but be aware that we will have catastrophic events and since most of us haven’t been around for the last 200 years we may be shocked to see the scope of future fires in areas even thought to be “natural”.
In certain areas there are active forest management practices attempting to mimic natural process. This is a great application of science based best management practices. I fear that it is at a tremendously low effort and only targeted at thought “most” likely man caused event areas. As our once logged forests reach unnatural densities, logging roads are closed limiting management access, disease spreads, and we presume that fires start only where people recreate; we will see some of the biggest burns ever.
How we manage the forests then will be interesting.
Houses, shops, and barns can be rebuilt… please be careful, especially with your family and just get out of the area when evacuated.
Weyerhauser basically has sold all there forest land(that they can't sell for homes or commercial property) because they didn't trust the government to allow them to harvest the trees they planted and took care of on their own land. 40-50 years was so far in the future and they saw how the government was being taken over by enviro wackos. All those jobs gone. Now there is no one with the skills or money to do what Powderminer refers too on their former lands or even lease lands unless they were bought by another forest products company with good stewardship practices.
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PowderMiner
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Great point. This is a specific example where one-sided views and political do-goodership, or even worse social engineering, failed miserably (for the environment and people) without looking at all aspects of the problem.
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i'llDooit
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PowderMiner
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http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2012/09/09/2093474/wenatchee-valley-hit-hard-by-lightning.html
This was the event I was thinking of… if it would have happened three weeks ago. There is a fire at the Rock Creek trail north of 2, right where there are a lot of semi-dead trees. Looks like a lot of fires scattered around from the big lighting storm we got Saturday night. It rained hard and has been heavy dew in the mornings for the last few weeks.
Hope everyone is safe and their stuff is ok.
This was the event I was thinking of… if it would have happened three weeks ago. There is a fire at the Rock Creek trail north of 2, right where there are a lot of semi-dead trees. Looks like a lot of fires scattered around from the big lighting storm we got Saturday night. It rained hard and has been heavy dew in the mornings for the last few weeks.
Hope everyone is safe and their stuff is ok.
I live out by White Swan, it's so smokey that it's tough to breathe. 1600 acres of pasture land just east of us was burnt yesterday and there is a large plume of smoke to the SW (up wind) of my house . . .
It would be nice if we took proper care of the forests, seems we swing way too far one way or the other, is it really that hard to learn? Even my dumb azz knows better than much of what we do . . . sigh.
Maybe tomorrow.
Bag
It would be nice if we took proper care of the forests, seems we swing way too far one way or the other, is it really that hard to learn? Even my dumb azz knows better than much of what we do . . . sigh.
Maybe tomorrow.
Bag
I just saw this on the news and I was thinking that it looked like your place, but all of the terrain out there kinda looks the same. Glad to here that everything is OK. Man, You've had a few somewhat close calls out there the last couple of years.
