Snow was great 28-30th. The trail out from Grizzly TH had 2 foot deep moguls for 2 miles though. Could't get off of there fast enough.
Buff Pass conditions
- Thread starter jdrmx
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Groomed last night 12/30 should be groomed again tonight
The trail is a nightmare again too
Yeah, that’s what I was worried about.
So why bother buying a colorad sticker if they don’t groom the trail??
Makes you wonder what they do with our $30. Sure isn't used for marking the trail either.
Public Service Announcement ... If you ARE NOT camping in the Muddy Creek lot, PLEASE for the love of God don't just leave your trailers parked up there while you're somewhere else a week+ at a time.
I think the simple fact of the matter is that people haven't done a very good job of 'self policing' if you will the last several years, but this year has been particularly ridiculous, and the fear is that the USFS is about ready to just kabash overnight camping at Muddy Creek entirley ending the decades-old tradition of being able to do so up there.
Simple ask from the locals - Use your brain and don't ruin it for everyone else leaving your **** parked there weeks at a time.
I think the simple fact of the matter is that people haven't done a very good job of 'self policing' if you will the last several years, but this year has been particularly ridiculous, and the fear is that the USFS is about ready to just kabash overnight camping at Muddy Creek entirley ending the decades-old tradition of being able to do so up there.
Simple ask from the locals - Use your brain and don't ruin it for everyone else leaving your **** parked there weeks at a time.
Be careful of avalanches this weekend the snow didn’t adhere well this storm. Set off a small storm slab at 9700 ft today.
If 20 people rode that $200 would even run the groomer for 2 hours. Now you also have to pay someone to administer the payment policy and provide a kiosk for payment. It's not as simple as paying a few bucks for grooming every day.
It's not hidden information. That money goes to Colorado State Parks and Wildlife. The money is distributed to CSA (Colorado Snowmobile Association) clubs for the purpose of grooming, groomer maintenance, trail maintenance and capital purchases such as the grooming equipment. So, your $30 is just a tiny addition. If everyone would pay their sled registrations there would be more grooming.
Out here now. The trail is HORRIBLE as always and there are hundreds of people riding daily during the week. I sure don’t think the grooming would be any worse with daily trail passes. I own and operate heavy equipment for a living, I understand the cost to operate it.
Yeah theres places where 20 people ride each day… and those places don’t need to be groomed daily. Its the ones with heavy traffic where the pay booth would work.
The problem can be fixed if guys would ride the trail wider. F’n South Dakota guys love beating a single track all the way up and the whoops spread out wider after they are created. Hold the throttle wfo and whoop it like a moto track and they smooth out. ?
Hey, easy on the South Dakotas guys now. I rode against the rocks on one side or the trees on the other, can't get much wider.
Need some 8' slip on skis to bridge those whoops!
Need some 8' slip on skis to bridge those whoops!
Sled trip season is over for the most part just locals riding now but be very carful if you are venturing out this weekend. Currently 40&14 are closed but grizzly can still be accessed via 125. county road 24/grizzly parking currently has about 5 feet in the lot and several groups are stranded in the lot tonight. Jackson county waits until after storms to plow county roads which maybe in the morning or not until Sunday morning.
It’s been one hell of a year for us locals be safe and see ya up there tomorrow.
It’s been one hell of a year for us locals be safe and see ya up there tomorrow.
