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Brand Bashing Yamaha Sleds
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Says the free loading sob. Christopher makes a positive contribution at least. You, your a waste of skin buddy. Still haven't pulled your head out of your arse and realized nobody likes you and your crappy comments. Get a clue would ya.
No....what I am saying is that my Yamaha came back on a rope more times than my friends cats and skidoos. I spent more money to keep mine rideable than anyone else in my group. Sometimes you got to take the blinders off Chris...........
Seriously, I am VERY surprised to hear it.
I am running 4 Yamaha sleds right now, with a 5th on the way.
And in all honesty I have had almost no issues at all that were not 100% the result of some modification I made with aftermarket products.
In the OEM configuration, they have been wildly dependable.
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I am running 4 Yamaha sleds right now, with a 5th on the way.
And in all honesty I have had almost no issues at all that were not 100% the result of some modification I made with aftermarket products.
In the OEM configuration, they have been wildly dependable.
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Mine was a 100% stock engine with the rollover valve installed, oil and filter changed every year 0-30 mobile 1 with zddp additive. But it wasn't only that, it was the gage pod that busts off if you look at it wrong, the front end bushings that are shot in 1000 miles, steering post bushings that are junk in 500 miles, multiple fuel pump relays, oil that runs out if the sled tips in its side, nonfunctioning handlebar warmers, factory track that sheds lugs like its going out of style, oil tank that cracks out and drools oil. Not my idea of being reliable.......... Part of the reason you say they are "widely dependable" is because there aren't any out there. Ive rode the Snowies and the Horns for a long time and typically I was the only one unloading a 4 stroke.
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No argument, 4 strokes are always rare in the mountains.
I SELDOM come across another 4 stroke in island park.
The 2 smokes still completely own the mountain segment.
But your experience kinda stands out from common comments of other Apex owners here on SW.
Though the dry sump roll over issue is an absolute flaw in design.
Why they never corrected that is beyond me.
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I SELDOM come across another 4 stroke in island park.
The 2 smokes still completely own the mountain segment.
But your experience kinda stands out from common comments of other Apex owners here on SW.
Though the dry sump roll over issue is an absolute flaw in design.
Why they never corrected that is beyond me.
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stingray719
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And its the internet where anybody can say anything. I had 37 Polaris snowmobiles and they all blew up! LOL, anybody believe that? I hope not.
Go take a look at the ultralight and experimental plane builders and see how many rx1 and apex engines are in use? Not interested in facts you say? Well....I knew that!
Other than the motor blowing up, the problems I had are common to ALL first gen Apexes. One thing I didn't have to replace is the exhaust donuts and head pipes...............
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Coming from a guy that sits when he rides.....I will that info with a grain of salt.
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stingray719
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If you get rid of that Doo and buy a proclimb chassis you too can sit most of the time you ride.
I have had 1 Apex and 3 RX1 (still have one of those RX1) Amazing engines but what an ill handling turd. Blew one engine as the previous owner turned it over and ran it without oil, does that count as an unreliable engine?
If you get rid of that Doo and buy a proclimb chassis you too can sit most of the time you ride.
I have had 1 Apex and 3 RX1 (still have one of those RX1) Amazing engines but what an ill handling turd. Blew one engine as the previous owner turned it over and ran it without oil, does that count as an unreliable engine?
The ability to run upside down and dump the oil is a SERIOUS F UP on Yamahas part..........12 years later and the same thing still happens, cutting edge engineering at work.
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stingray719
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The ability to run upside down and dump the oil is a SERIOUS F UP on Yamahas part..........12 years later and the same thing still happens, cutting edge engineering at work.
Yeah we finally agree, they could have at least put the low oil pressure system they put on the Phazer on the more expensive sleds....right?
Just an FYI have rolled Viper a couple of times and didn't puke out the oil but did have to reprime, the Viper has a diff breather system. Still recommend a rollover kit before somebody says something.
Blew one engine as the previous owner turned it over and ran it without oil,does that count as an unreliable engine?
Not an unreliable engine but a piss poor design. When trail riding my sled has been known to end up wrong side up. When mountain riding it's a given at some point that it's going to be over far enough/long enough to puke some/all it's oil. Year one - ok I'll give you that one. Year 12 and 3 motor designs (apex, nytro, and phazer) later the same issue is still being talked about on the latest and greatest Yamaha offering. That's pretty much ridiculous by any ones definition. I'm a Yamaha rider until I have reason not to be and have no reason to change but the reality is that while Yamaha makes a great trail sled (not without it's own issues) their mountain lineup has been severely lacking for years. They can be made into a decent sled but it's been up to the owner to make it happen while more often than not the other manufacturers mountain sleds are much more capable out of the box and the needed improvements cost less overall to obtain. A person shouldn't have to dump a pile of cash into a sled in order to be on the same basic playing field as their buddies on a different brand. Is the new viper a step in the right direction? Appears like it. But it still has warts like all the rest of the sleds on the market. To date the perfect sled for everyone hasn't been produced. When it finally is the aftermarket industry will cease to exist and so will these discussion boards. Till then - May the force be with you all
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rmscustom
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If you get rid of that Doo and buy a proclimb chassis you too can sit most of the time you ride.
Bold above really sheds a light on the differences in opinions on sleds due to riding styles... I seriously have a sled upside down once an hour and rarely sit down until I'm dog tired headed out on a smooth enough trail that lets me.
last winter I climbed a steep hill sitting down, very bad idea! Hit a bump and sled rolled over me and down the hill
I looked like an idiot lol
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stingray719
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Yes I too had a Nytro once and remember that well.
$.02
I will only comment from a Minnesotans point of view. Here 60+ years ago 3 guys like yourself were also building things in their shop. That's how Polaris came about. Then of course Arctic Cat was soon to follow, and the rest is history. If it wasn't for back yard mechanics like yourself this forum would not exist. Brand loyalty comes up here all the time and I will say I am guilty of that. For me, and I say for me, I buy Polaris because it's made here in the USA. Anyone who has lost their home, or had to relocate, or got divorced because they lost their job due to imports may feel the same way. LH, you bring up an excellent point about poking fun. That's all it is, poking fun. In my world I call it construction humor because that's the field I am in. Right or wrong. We all do it. It's who we are.
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/lo...4/02/09/polaris-david-johnson-roseau/5230895/
But can you build millions of them?
I will only comment from a Minnesotans point of view. Here 60+ years ago 3 guys like yourself were also building things in their shop. That's how Polaris came about. Then of course Arctic Cat was soon to follow, and the rest is history. If it wasn't for back yard mechanics like yourself this forum would not exist. Brand loyalty comes up here all the time and I will say I am guilty of that. For me, and I say for me, I buy Polaris because it's made here in the USA. Anyone who has lost their home, or had to relocate, or got divorced because they lost their job due to imports may feel the same way. LH, you bring up an excellent point about poking fun. That's all it is, poking fun. In my world I call it construction humor because that's the field I am in. Right or wrong. We all do it. It's who we are.
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/lo...4/02/09/polaris-david-johnson-roseau/5230895/
