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Brake ?'s

summitboy

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How does the TS brake work ? I thought i heard some say not very good. Can users chime in ? I plan on running just a hand brake with a custom braided SS line. Good or bad ?
 
The only real problem with the brake is that the brake disc builds ice so usually the brake is soft at first until you burn off all the ice. Apply the standard snowmobile brake pump and you can get grip pretty quick. Buy a custom brake line for your stock hand brake and you are good to go.
 
LOL. That thought had crossed my mind lol. Just cant leave the master cyl open lol. Gotta find a fabricator for my intake LOL. I know this retired guy.......
 
I originally hooked up the brake to the foot, master cyl. Hated it. Always locking up the track when just wanting a little brake. I bought the TS hand brake line and use the front master cyl. This works great, and you can brake with your right foot off the peg too. I find it has plenty of power.
 
hey gime a break

1. sno bikes aren't bikes or sleds. so you feel a little panic without a foot pedal to stand on cause you grew up on Honda 90's.........gotta get over it, you don't need a foot brake........ride some more you'll get there.

2. brake discs exposed to the snow build ice on the disc face and the ice circulating past the pads keeps pushing your pads back so when you grab the brake the first squeeze pushes the pad closer to the disc but maybe no enough to make contact and produce friction.......a little more panic.

all the sled manufactures that have experimented with this issue cover their disc and protect them from the snow and ice, and all the good sleds require just a little squeeze for full on pad contact. If your sled need more than half a pull, something's wrong. All the discs on the sled driveshaft in the tunnel made it one year before disappearing in a cloud of litigation...........tooo many paniced pilgrims making three squeezes while they hit road crossing at 80mph.

3. So on the sno bike you need to cover that disc or learn the 3 squeeze stop.
An ATV master cylinder with far more fluid displacement per squeeze can help.
Helped but didn't solve our poor braking on custom chute climbers with disc inside the tunnel. Soon as we moved the disc inboard where they were dry and hot, spot on instant braking.

4.the first sno bike I build I used sled brakes and a sno bike really doesn't need that much stopping power. The current popular bike kits are a little short pure braking power but adequate. My newest sled is just adequate also, I will however make a disc cover and experiment with bakes right now even if its a little weak. I have tried a road bike master cylinder on the small willwood caliper and you can make lock up now brakes on a MTN H........except for that nagging ice build up issue.
 
Most of the time guys have air in the line and don’t even know it. This is one reason you would have to pump the lever to get full braking pressure. How this happens is you start out with a fully bled brake system. You then tip the bike over and the air in the master cylinder inverts and get into the line. If you over fill the master cylinder with fluid before putting the cap on so it over flows and ends up with no air in the master cylinder, this will not happen any more and will be less likely for the snow and ice powering past the pads pushing them back.

The other thing is a sled style master cylinder will not have more brake power. It will have a lot less because it is designed for a larger brake caliper with more volume in it. So on a smaller caliper like what is on the MH kit you have to pull the lever twice as hard to get the same braking power as the stock master cylinder that you can get with your fingers.
 
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Are you guys riding your snowbike in traffic? What do you need brakes for? Especially the 4 strokes. Lots of engine braking unless you have a recluse and if you do, you're good enough to ride without brakes.
 
I find the brake comes in handy for tight downhill turns. Grab the brake, allow the track to slide around, drop brake and throttle up when you want to shoot through an opening. Sure you don't use the brake like you did on a sled, but it's still nice to have one ready for you at a moments notice.
 
Trees and Hills confuse me. That why I bought the purpose built Mountain Horse for wheat fields and plowed roads. WOOOO!
 
So from what I'm reading here...add a snowmobile master cylinder tied to the MS brake line? Are regular dirt bike brake levels adaptable to the master cylinder?
 
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