Just my 2 cent's but if you need liqiud courage to climb some of these chute's maybe you shouldn't even be trying them in the first place! Saw it first hand at the Alpine ride, by more then one rider. ( not mentioning any names). Some one is going to get hurt because of lack of judgement, and I do not want to be come one of the one's injuried because someone needs to be hammered to climb some of theses climb's. Save it for the trailer or the bar after riding, and we will all have alot more fun. Thanks for letting me rant RIP.