Boondocker EBC Operation

[Dogmeat]

Ok, so I fired up the sled today and tried to go through the initial EBC calibration like it says to do in the instructioms.

The fuel control box now reads zero on the boost at idle.

The EBC now for some reason only displayed the boost set point.

Shouldn't the EBC read zero at idle? It just displays "8.5" continually.

I also tried running the RPMs up a little on the track stand, it does not appear to be building any boost at all at 5,000 rpm (just off clutch engagement) ...

What RPM do these kits typically start building boost at?

 

[Cosarguy]

Under no load and the throttle bodies barely opening at 5000 RPM, I would not expect it to be making much, if any boost. The EBC gauge will display the last function you were in when no boost is being made. The 8.5 being displayed is the max boost for the elevation you set it at (Read, barametric pressure). (boost set point) "0" boost on the Boondocker fuel control box should equate to approximately 44 to 47 on the EBC box when set in cal. mode.

I'm just educating myself to this new, to me, EBC/Boondocker box as well. There is good info on the forum and on-line regarding this subject.

good luck!

 

[Dogmeat]

Ok, another question ...

Lets say I DONT want the altitude compensation on to start with, I want to get used to manually setting boost, etc..

In the BD instructions, there are some lines regarding "SET BST" and "SET HP" ...

SET BST meaning what boost level you are targeting, set HP being the duty cycle of the wastegate ...

It says you have to add both ot get total boost? What does that mean and how does that work ....? Shouldn't the "SET HP" be a function of boost setpoint?

Is the SET HP only for using the push to pass buttin when you want to add boost manually?

I guess I don't understand why the push to pass even exists if it's setting duty cycle on the waste gate as opposed to adding 1/4 of a psi of boost or something ...

 

[Cosarguy]

Ok, another question ...

Lets say I DONT want the altitude compensation on to start with, I want to get used to manually setting boost, etc..

Just make sure Altitude Compensation is turned off. This way you set the boost you want and it will not change as you go up or down in altitude. With that said, as you go up you will read the same boost pressure, however it will not be making the same HP as the base air is less dense therefore you have less net boost pressure inside the motor. Conversely, If you set your boost at say 8000' and then go to a lower ALT your boost will read the same; however, your internal net boost will be higher.

In the BD instructions, there are some lines regarding "SET BST" and "SET HP" ...

Set boost is for baseline boost number and or for manually setting your desired boost level."Set HP" is for the push to pass button and is added to current set boost to create total boost. IE 8.5 pounds set boost + 2 pounds Set HP = 10.5 total boost when button is depressed. You need to make sure you are not boosting beyond the system and or your fuel.

It says you have to add both ot get total boost? What does that mean and how does that work ....? Shouldn't the "SET HP" be a function of boost setpoint?

You don't have to use push to pass if you don't want to, just punch in your desired boost and not use "Set HP." The SET HP (push to pass button) is used when you want to add a shot of additional boost manually Much like hitting a NOS button.

I guess I don't understand why the push to pass even exists if it's setting duty cycle on the waste gate as opposed to adding 1/4 of a psi of boost or something ...

See above. Also, the button can be configured to do different things if you like. But that's a whole other topic.

again, I am just learning this myself, so hopefully others with much more knowledge regarding the new Boondocker system can chime in.

 

[gettis]

Depends if you have a 2010 model EBC or a 2011 as they are different. I found out that a 2010 was send with my kit this year. The #'s work on a curve and is not what you boost is like the 2011 unit. So make sure you know which unit you have. If you acronyms are not matching up as per your instructions you will have the other version which does not share the exact same logic. The new logic make more sense to me, just waiting for the right one to come as we have 8" of snow already.

You also will want to make sure you are on the display screen not somewhere in the menu.

Hope this helps. If not I would call Junior at BD and he was a great help to me.

 

[Dogmeat]

How do you tell if you got the 2010 or 2011 EBC?

I got two different sets of instructions for mine, I don't know which is which.

 

[Cosarguy]

Boondocker is behind the curve as far as directions go...I understand they are working on it however.

Since your EBC box is showing actual boost numbers "8.5" in your case in the "Set boost" section instead of reference numbers, you should have the newesdt unit. Setting boost on the new box should require going though 3 set points, example 00.0. Last years, as I recall looking at a couple of them last season, showed a reference number that represented one pound of boost and not actual boost numbers. Also, it is my understanding that all the new (2011) boxes have a flush surface across the LCD display screen and not recessed like the older style box. So if your EBC box is smooth across the face, then it should be the new style box with the new settings.

Ya know, I have PMed Snow JW (code Red Performance) about Boondocker Turbo stuff and that guy is a wealth of information on these boondocker turbos. He is a dealer who really seems to know his stuff. Shoot him a PM. He is really good about getting back to you.

 

[savedbygrace]

Ok, so I fired up the sled today and tried to go through the initial EBC calibration like it says to do in the instructioms.

The fuel control box now reads zero on the boost at idle.

The EBC now for some reason only displayed the boost set point.

Shouldn't the EBC read zero at idle? It just displays "8.5" continually.

I also tried running the RPMs up a little on the track stand, it does not appear to be building any boost at all at 5,000 rpm (just off clutch engagement) ...

What RPM do these kits typically start building boost at?

Ok, another question ...

Lets say I DONT want the altitude compensation on to start with, I want to get used to manually setting boost, etc..

In the BD instructions, there are some lines regarding "SET BST" and "SET HP" ...

SET BST meaning what boost level you are targeting, set HP being the duty cycle of the wastegate ...

It says you have to add both ot get total boost? What does that mean and how does that work ....? Shouldn't the "SET HP" be a function of boost setpoint?

Is the SET HP only for using the push to pass buttin when you want to add boost manually?

I guess I don't understand why the push to pass even exists if it's setting duty cycle on the waste gate as opposed to adding 1/4 of a psi of boost or something ...

Here is a step by step through the NEW (2011) Boondocker EBC operation.

The first screen that comes up on your Boondocker EBC is “SET BST”(set boost). You can adjust this number to set maximum boost. As long as you remain on the set boost screen, the set boost setting will be displayed until you actually start to build boost.

The second screen you come to is “SET HP”, this is the amount of boost the EBC will add with the push to pass button. Again as long as you remain on this screen, the set value will be displayed until you actually start to build boost.

The third screen is “ALT” (altitude), this screen will display your approximate altitude. Again as long as you remain on this screen, this value will be displayed until you actually start to build boost.

The next screen is the “CFG PT CAL”. If this screen does not come up and you need to make a configuration adjustment, go to the “ALT” screen and hold the button down for five seconds. You only want to adjust this value if your EBC is connected to your Boondocker Control Box harness, and the control box is not using a separate pressure transducer. You have to adjust this with the sled idling and the Control Box on the “Stats-RUN” screen. You can adjust this value until the Control Box Reads 00.0 at idle, if the Control Box already reads 00.0, then on adjustment is needed.

The second screen in the configuration menu is the “ALT CMP” (altitude comp), you can set this to add or subtract one psi of boost for one psi of ambient air pressure change, or you can set this to “X2” to add or subtract two psi of boost for one psi of ambient air pressure change. You can also turn this feature off by selecting “NO”.

The third Screen in the configuration menu is, “BZZ” this can be used to test your boost solenoid.

The forth screen in the configuration menu is “BST U-M”, use this screen to select PSI or BAR for English or Metric units of measure for your boost reading.

The fifth screen in the configuration menu is “ALT U-M”, use this screen to select “KFT” (thousands of Feet) or “KM”( thousands of Meters) for your altitude reading.

The sixth screen in the configuration menu “REV”, displays the version number of the program that you EBC is programmed with.

The last screen in the configuration menu “XIT CFG” is the exit configuration screen. To exit configuration mode hold the button down on “YES” until “YES” flashes then hold the button again until “YES” is solid, then press the button to advance to the next screen. This will exit you from the configuration mode, and now your EBC will only cycle through the “SET
BST, SET HP, and the ALT” screens.

This should clear things up. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
Junior

 

[Dogmeat]

Here is a step by step through the NEW (2011) Boondocker EBC operation.

The first screen that comes up on your Boondocker EBC is “SET BST”(set boost). You can adjust this number to set maximum boost. As long as you remain on the set boost screen, the set boost setting will be displayed until you actually start to build boost.

The second screen you come to is “SET HP”, this is the amount of boost the EBC will add with the push to pass button. Again as long as you remain on this screen, the set value will be displayed until you actually start to build boost.

The third screen is “ALT” (altitude), this screen will display your approximate altitude. Again as long as you remain on this screen, this value will be displayed until you actually start to build boost.

The next screen is the “CFG PT CAL”. If this screen does not come up and you need to make a configuration adjustment, go to the “ALT” screen and hold the button down for five seconds. You only want to adjust this value if your EBC is connected to your Boondocker Control Box harness, and the control box is not using a separate pressure transducer. You have to adjust this with the sled idling and the Control Box on the “Stats-RUN” screen. You can adjust this value until the Control Box Reads 00.0 at idle, if the Control Box already reads 00.0, then on adjustment is needed.

The second screen in the configuration menu is the “ALT CMP” (altitude comp), you can set this to add or subtract one psi of boost for one psi of ambient air pressure change, or you can set this to “X2” to add or subtract two psi of boost for one psi of ambient air pressure change. You can also turn this feature off by selecting “NO”.

The third Screen in the configuration menu is, “BZZ” this can be used to test your boost solenoid.

The forth screen in the configuration menu is “BST U-M”, use this screen to select PSI or BAR for English or Metric units of measure for your boost reading.

The fifth screen in the configuration menu is “ALT U-M”, use this screen to select “KFT” (thousands of Feet) or “KM”( thousands of Meters) for your altitude reading.

The sixth screen in the configuration menu “REV”, displays the version number of the program that you EBC is programmed with.

The last screen in the configuration menu “XIT CFG” is the exit configuration screen. To exit configuration mode hold the button down on “YES” until “YES” flashes then hold the button again until “YES” is solid, then press the button to advance to the next screen. This will exit you from the configuration mode, and now your EBC will only cycle through the “SET
BST, SET HP, and the ALT” screens.

This should clear things up. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
Junior

Ok, that helps me out , thank you ... the part about the screens not "clearing" until you actually start to build boost was throwing me off, I might have missed that in the instructions.

I do have one other question for you.

Does the jumper connector you can use to power up the fuel control box with the 9v battery also power up the EBC as well?

 

[JHG]

Does the jumper connector you can use to power up the fuel control box with the 9v battery also power up the EBC as well?

No.

 

[SNOW JW]

You can power the EBC with a 12volt battery but not the 9volt I sent you a PM on this.

 

[Dogmeat]

Ok, I still don't understand why you don't just program in a "MAX BOOST" setting and have it automatically adjust the SET HP to acheive that ....?

I'm trying to reset this thing for a baseline of 8,000 feet instead of the factory 6 to see that helps with consistency ...

The instructions are kind of vague on what that SET HP is really supposed to be as far as boost level goes. How are you supposed to know what your max boost level is by programming in a solenoid duty cycle ...?