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Boeing moving to China? Could happen. Article.

What the hell is wrong with this country? Oh right, It's Bush's fault. :confused: The company I work for is heavily tied into the Space program and NASA might be forced by our current administration to cancel some BIG projects soon. That will affect Lockhead Martin, United Space Alliance, Orbital, Ratheon, ATK etc. to name a few of the bigger players. :mad:
 
It probably makes sense considering that the present occupants of the White House don't have any economic sense or ability at all. The CEO of Caterpillar has said he is getting more help from Beijing than he has from Washington. We have a little black cloud hanging over us and I don't mean that in a racial way.
 
What the hell is wrong with this country? Oh right, It's Bush's fault. :confused: The company I work for is heavily tied into the Space program and NASA might be forced by our current administration to cancel some BIG projects soon. That will affect Lockhead Martin, United Space Alliance, Orbital, Ratheon, ATK etc. to name a few of the bigger players. :mad:

Bo claims to be saving jobs ( stimulus and all ) but he keeps cutting the good paying jobs like cutting 55 billion from the Missile Defense Agency and that also affects some of the companies you mentioned. All good paying jobs, it doesn't make sense at all.
 
sure hope that dosen't happen. man seattle and the surrounding areas will be destroyed if they leave, not to mention the rest of WA and the country.
 
no wonder we don't have any jobs. bought a new drive motor for my bobcat made in united kingdom bought a new ideler wheel for the under carrige made in italy. then wonder why bobcat has shut the plant down for months at a time and just layed off 500 more.
lindy little joe(fishing tackle) just shut down there plant in the spring in our town. bought 4 different packages for my boy on his b-day one was made in hati, mexico, china, and the sinkers were made in the us. we need to get some manufacturing and industries going because all we have or had has been building homes and buildings
 
Bo claims to be saving jobs ( stimulus and all ) but he keeps cutting the good paying jobs like cutting 55 billion from the Missile Defense Agency and that also affects some of the companies you mentioned. All good paying jobs, it doesn't make sense at all.

I once made components for Bunker Buster bombs All that has dried up and blown away with the tumble weeds. I am fortunate to be a bit more diversified than some contractors that where there to serve the defense industry in my state. They are closing up fast ! These where the good paying jobs you mentioned and then there is the oil & gas industry whickh is THE industry in NM!I think we all Know how well thats been going between the economy ,greenies and the politicians . Before long we will all work at Walmart or Mcdonalds
 
Could not agree more ! Large scale MFG. is done in this country ! I cant blame anyone for moving overseas . Trying to make money amid the taxes ,enviro, saftey ETC. is not fesible. Add in greedy azzholes like the UAW and who the **** are we kidding here ? People in this country need to STFU and get thier lazy azz back to work
 
The rate of manufacturing exodus, is scary. The smart foreigners (the PHDs we use in big industry) are all talking about going home and taking what they learned with them. I know a lot of people's feeling towards H1B engineers, and such, but they have the technology. And, if enough of them leave, we'll be unable to make anything anymore, or should I say, we won't be the leaders anymore.

Capitalism is being strangled. Every country is picking an industry, and putting everything they have into it.

Korea, DRAM memory, and ship building.
Japan, consumer electronics.
China, solar power, mass production, millions of engineers.
Singapore, silicon design
India, space, cell phones, call centers, computer technology, wind power.
Taiwan, circuit boards, support chips, SOC chips.

Companies have to be extensions of the government, to compete. It's getting to the point, where a person can not go out and start a company; and hope to survive and compete fairly.
 
The rate of manufacturing exodus, is scary. The smart foreigners (the PHDs we use in big industry) are all talking about going home and taking what they learned with them. I know a lot of people's feeling towards H1B engineers, and such, but they have the technology. And, if enough of them leave, we'll be unable to make anything anymore, or should I say, we won't be the leaders anymore.

Capitalism is being strangled. Every country is picking an industry, and putting everything they have into it.

Korea, DRAM memory, and ship building.
Japan, consumer electronics.
China, solar power, mass production, millions of engineers.
Singapore, silicon design
India, space, cell phones, call centers, computer technology, wind power.
Taiwan, circuit boards, support chips, SOC chips.

Companies have to be extensions of the government, to compete. It's getting to the point, where a person can not go out and start a company; and hope to survive and compete fairly.

You left out the United States industry as being a Importer :(
 
The rate of manufacturing exodus, is scary. The smart foreigners (the PHDs we use in big industry) are all talking about going home and taking what they learned with them. I know a lot of people's feeling towards H1B engineers, and such, but they have the technology. And, if enough of them leave, we'll be unable to make anything anymore, or should I say, we won't be the leaders anymore.

Capitalism is being strangled. Every country is picking an industry, and putting everything they have into it.

Korea, DRAM memory, and ship building.
Japan, consumer electronics.
China, solar power, mass production, millions of engineers.
Singapore, silicon design
India, space, cell phones, call centers, computer technology, wind power.
Taiwan, circuit boards, support chips, SOC chips.

Companies have to be extensions of the government, to compete. It's getting to the point, where a person can not go out and start a company; and hope to survive and compete fairly.

This a concern of mine too.
My thought is ...heaven forbid, but if things got bad and the USA were attacked, and we had to come up with huge mining, refining, and manufacturing enormous effort such as was the case in WW2, could we do it now days with so much off shore? I doubt it. :(

Do we still have the expertise to turn out a fighter plane like the P-51 Mustang that went from a sketch on an envelope to rolling off the production line in 120 days?!

Our country is being screwed from so many different angles. :mad:
 
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Do we still have the expertise to turn out a fighter plane like the P-51 Mustang that went from a sketch on an envelope to rolling off the production line in 120 days?!
I'd like to think we do but when you ship things over seas and layoff the people that had the knowhow here, things get lost. More and more it's kids with a Masters degree getting paid peanuts working 60+ hours with only book smarts! We lost that work hard mentality thru the last couple generations also!
 
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The rate of manufacturing exodus, is scary. The smart foreigners (the PHDs we use in big industry) are all talking about going home and taking what they learned with them. I know a lot of people's feeling towards H1B engineers, and such, but they have the technology. And, if enough of them leave, we'll be unable to make anything anymore, or should I say, we won't be the leaders anymore.

Capitalism is being strangled. Every country is picking an industry, and putting everything they have into it.

Korea, DRAM memory, and ship building.
Japan, consumer electronics.
China, solar power, mass production, millions of engineers.
Singapore, silicon design
India, space, cell phones, call centers, computer technology, wind power.
Taiwan, circuit boards, support chips, SOC chips.

Companies have to be extensions of the government, to compete. It's getting to the point, where a person can not go out and start a company; and hope to survive and compete fairly.


Sorry but that is not capitalism being strangled. It is capitalism in its truest form. Cut throat. Compete or get out of the way. They can produce it for less, why wouldn't they? Someone else is offering it for less, you had better find a way to compete or capitalism will swallow you.
 
So many great statments have been made here and questions raised. I am worried my self. I have 20 years in at Boeing and i'm only 40. I won't be moving anywhere to help someone else build are chit.:mad:




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