best news in a decade....possible little ice age...ooops about that Global warming...

[MTdream]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090504-sun-global-cooling.html

YEEEHHHHHAAAAWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!! might have to go with taht 174"x3.0" track sooner than I thought

 

[Ollie]

I don't know what your talking about.
Al Gore didn't authorize any temperature drops, therefore it isn't going to happen.

 

[woodzy]

How dare NatGeo post something like that against AAAAAL GORRRRREEEEE's orders!!!!!

 

[Ollie]

oh, and it has also been proven that the antartic ice is in fact growing, not shrinking, but hey, more facts to be ignored.

 

[shortstop20]

Didn't you hear? It's called "global climate change" now. That way they have an excuse whenever the climate changes.

It's not like the earth's climate changes in cycles, who's stupid enough to think that?

 

[Weekday Warrior]

looks to me like their still pandering to the left

the scientists say, the star's (the suns') effects on climate will pale in contrast with the influence of human-made greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2).
"I think you have to bear in mind that the CO2 is a good 50 to 60 percent higher than normal, whereas the decline in solar output is a few hundredths of one percent down," Lockwood said. "I think that helps keep it in perspective."

SO, if we follow the logic when the sun goes away we need to break out the SUV's and pollute more to warm our planet back up eh?


lol

 

[woodzy]

maybe some day they'll figure out why the sun goes away every day..

 

[Adrenaline Revolution]

maybe some day they'll figure out why the sun goes away every day..

Not until many extensive studies are conducted at the taxpayers expense.
And even then it will take decades of testing to make certain the results are repeatable.

 

[Sambo11]

These enviro wackjobs need to get a life. Not that long ago I read about how they knew global warming was shrinking polar ice because there were fewer polar bears. Uh golly gee mister maybe there are fewer polar bears because maybe they're being over hunted. I'm pretty sure polar bears, like the rest of us animals, have the ability to adapt too their surroundings. I don't think polar ice is the determining factor of the polar bear population. If they are so concerned about polar bears stop hunting them.

 

[Doo37]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i knew it

 

[Ollie]

A national think tank was invited to the white house a couple weeks ago.
They discovered that the term "Global warming" didn't resonate with the people.
So they are trying to "rebrand" it in such a way that people will accept the changes Obama wants to do.

 

[MTdream]

looks to me like their still pandering to the left





SO, if we follow the logic when the sun goes away we need to break out the SUV's and pollute more to warm our planet back up eh?


lol

first problem...is assuming logic is to be used regarding this or any topic here...

 

[ccoleman77]

It is incredible how quick bleeding hearts change what is important. In my lifetime I remember the whales, AIDS the rainforest and now global warming... They have a shorter attention span than most ADD kids

 

[Wade]

the scientists say, the star's (the suns') effects on climate will pale in contrast with the influence of human-made greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2).
"I think you have to bear in mind that the CO2 is a good 50 to 60 percent higher than normal, whereas the decline in solar output is a few hundredths of one percent down," Lockwood said. "I think that helps keep it in perspective."

Now, if that were true, how could the sun have any effect? How could the earth be cooling, CO2 concentration isn't going down. Actually, their lying, the sun varies by 0.1%. That's a lot of heat, 166,400,000,000,000 watts. Stand in front of that heater.

Maybe it's because there is already enough CO2 in the atmosphere to capture all infra-red radiation (greenhouse effect) for the spectral absorption band of CO2. Another words, there's already enough CO2 to capture all the heat it can. Doubling CO2 wouldn't capture twice as much heat, it's all captured already. It might capture a couple percent more, at the edges of the belle curves, but that's it. It would also cause the heat to be captured closer to the ground though. Less than a degree increase. Their full of it.

 

[Ollie]

Now, if that were true, how could the sun have any effect? How could the earth be cooling, CO2 concentration isn't going down. Actually, their lying, the sun varies by 0.1%. That's a lot of heat, 166,400,000,000,000 watts. Stand in front of that heater.

Maybe it's because there is already enough CO2 in the atmosphere to capture all infra-red radiation (greenhouse effect) for the spectral absorption band of CO2. Another words, there's already enough CO2 to capture all the heat it can. Doubling CO2 wouldn't capture twice as much heat, it's all captured already. It might capture a couple percent more, at the edges of the belle curves, but that's it. It would also cause the heat to be captured closer to the ground though. Less than a degree increase. Their full of it.

Stop using logic and reason.
It confuses liberals.

The fun part about this arguement is the fact a lot of countries are starting to take a second look and are backing away from the whole mess. Japan has flat out stated the whole global warming/climate change thing is nothing more than a media indused frenzy and they are dropping any and all bills associated with it.

 

[woodzy]

Stop using logic and reason.
It confuses liberals.

The fun part about this arguement is the fact a lot of countries are starting to take a second look and are backing away from the whole mess. Japan has flat out stated the whole global warming/climate change thing is nothing more than a media indused frenzy and they are dropping any and all bills associated with it.

That is exactly what it's going to take to shut these liberal phukks up..

 

[Gainster]

Good job Minnesota
07, 2009
Warmist infighting reveals the folly of ethanol
Thomas Lifson

Those of us who believe Global Warming is a huge scam designed to profit those interests pushing it as "consensus science" just got a big boost from a powerful Democrat committee chairman in the House of Representatives.


Rep. Collin Peterson, a Democrat representing a rural Minnesota constituency and chairman of the House Agriculture Committee, has told the Obama administration he will not support climate change legislation. Regrettably, it is not skepticism over the unproven modeling at the basis of the climate predictions, but rather the threat of uncovering the folly of using ethanol to reduce carbon emissions motivating him. Feedstuffs.com reports:


"I'm off the train," Peterson said May 6 during a strongly worded statement at a hearing on the Environmental Protection Agency's new proposal for assessing indirect effects of ethanol production on greenhouse gas emissions. Peterson predicted that the EPA proposal, combined with the climate change legislation under consideration, could "kill off corn ethanol."


Peterson said, "I will not support any kind of climate change bill -- even if you fix this -- because I don't trust anybody anymore. I've had it."


Peterson said his position was not negotiable. "I don't have any confidence. The only way I would consider supporting any climate change legislation would be if it was ironclad that these agencies had no ability to do any rulemaking of any kind whatsoever ... (that) we could be absolutely guaranteed that these folks would not get involved," he said.


The mandated use of ethanol for auto fuel has driven up corn process, benefitting Peterson's constituents as it starves the poor overseas. Ethanol processing and transportation uses a high amount of energy (with associated emissions), and requires a large amount of land be devoted to production for fuel.


Obviously, a sincere warmist would want to understand the actual full impact of ethanol production and use. And someone interested in fattening the special interests he protects would not be interested in a full discussion. Just like Al Gore, with his massive investment ibn companies that would profit from carbon trading schemes.


With warmists, it always pays to follow the money.


Hat tip: Mark Morano, Climate Depot
Posted at 12:02 PM

 

[woodzy]

How long until Mr. Peterson is out of office??