belt drive failure
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sledneck_03
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What happens when you break a track? What happens when you shear a ski bolt? What happens when your rail Stabs your track? What happens when you break a rear idler? What happens when a bear ****s in the woods? By their standards it will not snap with normal use and it will still get you home if every tooth wore off.
*facepalm
Exact same as I you break a chain.
I've ridden snowmobiles for over 20 years and only broke 1 chain, and I've never seen another in person.
Exact same as I you break a chain.
I've ridden snowmobiles for over 20 years and only broke 1 chain, and I've never seen another in person.
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trackvs2wheels
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I don't think the OP is concerned about it breaking and not being able to get the sled back to the truck...
I believe he is more worried about it breaking and not being able to stop the sled.
However, I believe this is where the maneuver Burandt refers to as the “bulldog” could come in handy
Even if a sled is coasting down a pretty steep hill...lay it on its side and "slide" it down to the bottom...shouldn't be that difficult on a PRO
I believe he is more worried about it breaking and not being able to stop the sled.
However, I believe this is where the maneuver Burandt refers to as the “bulldog” could come in handy
Even if a sled is coasting down a pretty steep hill...lay it on its side and "slide" it down to the bottom...shouldn't be that difficult on a PRO
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Going West
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I don't think the OP is concerned about it breaking and not being able to get the sled back to the truck...
I believe he is more worried about it breaking and not being able to stop the sled.
However, I believe this is where the maneuver Burandt refers to as the “bulldog” could come in handy
Even if a sled is coasting down a pretty steep hill...lay it on its side and "slide" it down to the bottom...shouldn't be that difficult on a PRO
I have broken many chains on my old 900 cat, it will always happen under power so for the most part you are pointed straight up the hill. There is no way to to turn the sled and get the front in. Its a quick and scary ride to the the bottom, that usually will involve some carnage if you are on a big hill.
But breaking a belt or a chain is no different so I dont really see the big concern. Just a Cat dealer trying to stir the pot in the Poo section.
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550iq
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All one has to do is to spend time changing tracks on a Ski Doo to get a true feeling on this subject. I'll take a jackshaft mounted brake anytime versus dealing with the grief created by a very tight fitting one piece bearing housing/brake caliper combo that requires me to disconnect the brake line in order to get this housing and rotor off, and God forbid trying to change out brake pads. Driving sharp objects into my ear seems to be a more enjoyable thing to do. I know there are Ski Doo'ers that claim this operation is fun and painless, but I feel they are just ignorant to other realities. Just goes to show the good and bads of all the different sleds. By the way, I hail the demise of the chaincase and I doubt you'll see any failures in the belt drive system. God Bless electronic reverse. 550iq
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I think someone is fishing. Just the title of the thread is misleading.
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jwentzer
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Hmm...I would concentrate all your extra time on finding a "cure" for the clutch belts on the cats and not worry about the "belt drive" on the Polaris!
Honestly though I too wondered the same thing. Why not design the brake to be in the most logical location? Polaris claims the belt is indestructable...I guess for now, we have to believe them. I'm still on a 12 so I have the chain to worry about and not the belt. Braking would be an issue...until then, I'm not worrying about it.
Hmm...I would concentrate all your extra time on finding a "cure" for the clutch belts on the cats and not worry about the "belt drive" on the Polaris!
Honestly though I too wondered the same thing. Why not design the brake to be in the most logical location? Polaris claims the belt is indestructable...I guess for now, we have to believe them. I'm still on a 12 so I have the chain to worry about and not the belt. Braking would be an issue...until then, I'm not worrying about it.
Hmm...I would concentrate all your extra time on finding a "cure" for the clutch belts on the cats and not worry about the "belt drive" on the Polaris!
Honestly though I too wondered the same thing. Why not design the brake to be in the most logical location? Polaris claims the belt is indestructable...I guess for now, we have to believe them. I'm still on a 12 so I have the chain to worry about and not the belt. Braking would be an issue...until then, I'm not worrying about it.
cat and doo still haven't got a real chain,no wonder why they are skeptical on poo belt drive.they are used to break a chain now and then.how many have actually broken a hyvo chain on the pro?the belt drive is even stronger than the hyvo chain.
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jwentzer
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Agree. I used to have a 600 Mountain Extreme Cat. It indeed at a few chains while I owned it.
X2 silent chain (Read; Cat and Doo) is weak, HYVO was a huge step in the right direction for Polaris and those making HYVO sprockets for Cat and Doo are cleaning up with those that are in the know. While Polaris is having some quality control issues with the belt drive, they will get it worked out and the other manufactures will follow suit.
Rode one off the hill today with a broken belt. The owner didn't feel comfy doing it. Its a ride. It free wheels awesome.
We put drive belts on the skis and pulled it down hill after that episode.
Food for thought. Why not put a smaller dia. floating brake disk on the outside of the bottom pulley and go with a four piston caliper?
We put drive belts on the skis and pulled it down hill after that episode.
Food for thought. Why not put a smaller dia. floating brake disk on the outside of the bottom pulley and go with a four piston caliper?
WKM looks like a prophet and the rest of the Poo faithful, well don't look as smart is the nicest way to put it. The belt drive thing is going to be a huge multi year mess. I don't think Poo will ever really address it. The number of guys who are having nightmare problems are pretty small and a lot of them are mod guys that Poo can ignore. The clamp will fix the problem for "most" people. We will see but that clamp I got is probably the last free part Poo will ever send me.
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geo
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I hope I never have to have a disc on the drive shaft again unless it's mounted in the tunnel and designed around ceramics.
The force required from the brakes at that point is so much greater. That transfers to greater heat. That meant warped discs for me. Which meant I got good at trueing discs. Which meant I warped them sooner. Which meant i needed to design in extra cooling for the way I ride on every sled I had since the 05 M7.
Once the PC design (now the heat gets thrown into the clutch and I've never rode horses for a living lol) came out I remembered why I hated the Doo's.
I've enjoyed the narrow footholds and very effective jackshaft brake that is small enough to cool itself. If a belt brakes put on another. Hopefully they're cheaper soon.
Also it's so much easier to tow a sled out mounted bumper to bumper. Just turn the skis around and tie up the bars straight.
If you stand on the skis and hang on to the windshield you can yell "mush, mush" to your buddy until he throttles it to throw you off lol.
The force required from the brakes at that point is so much greater. That transfers to greater heat. That meant warped discs for me. Which meant I got good at trueing discs. Which meant I warped them sooner. Which meant i needed to design in extra cooling for the way I ride on every sled I had since the 05 M7.
Once the PC design (now the heat gets thrown into the clutch and I've never rode horses for a living lol) came out I remembered why I hated the Doo's.
I've enjoyed the narrow footholds and very effective jackshaft brake that is small enough to cool itself. If a belt brakes put on another. Hopefully they're cheaper soon.
Also it's so much easier to tow a sled out mounted bumper to bumper. Just turn the skis around and tie up the bars straight.
If you stand on the skis and hang on to the windshield you can yell "mush, mush" to your buddy until he throttles it to throw you off lol.
George, when are you going to try a Doo again....at least they don't have brake disc problems
Heard of 3 more belts stripped this weekend...not stock sleds though.
I say that only to add fuel to the fire, it's my job.
Heard of 3 more belts stripped this weekend...not stock sleds though.
I say that only to add fuel to the fire, it's my job.
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