Bearing failures on other brands?

[eric82930]

Just curious if there have been any failures on other brands bearings yet?

my buddy and I have both had the ts single jackshaft bearing go out

I also had a brand new double go bad after one ride. no idea why, Its been fine all season since then.

 

[M5-]

Yes, my buddies Camso lost a drive bearing.

M5

 

[Hawkster]

This whole bearing failure is starting to get old guys . In a way you as the consumer are also to blame because everyone is so worried about how light their machine is .

Either the technology is gonna have to take a leap forward into manufacturing these kits or your just gonna have to build them stronger with what you have and the only way to do that will be by adding weight .

Perfect example in this picture , the retainer that the bearings are held in on the jack shaft and drive shaft are aluminum . Green loctite is used to secure the bearings , failure is not part of the equation .

Have any of you guys tried any other bearings besides the most common one that every one recommends ? Personally I think they are a bit sloppy . Timken makes bearing that have a pretty tight tolerance .

 

[yooper01]

I've replaced bearings on every sled I owned from 1999 till 2012. I view it just like changing my oil...Preventative maintenance.

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[CATSLEDMAN1]

flexible cracking..........oh crap

I built three kits using spherical self centering bearings like Arctic cat and POlaris used for 20 years. This setup allows for some sideplate flex without overstressing the bearing. I had to routinely replace my bearing, side stress is always the issue, they will run dry a long time as long as you are not stressing the bearings with side loads.

Out of the box on any of the kits, any possible side load stress on the bearing from inconsistency in manufacture fitting will take out bearing real fast. The new 18 TS kits will be a step towards minimizing that due to CNC parts as opposed to jig welded frames that are not all the same..............as brakes don't always work.

The kit I built and rode the most I added two cross bars a head of the track, side plate to side plate to cut down on side flex. I added a welded in brace behind at the counter shaft to brace the top of the side plate to the frame. Later I fabbed mounts and connected the side plates to the back of the foot pegs on my WR450. That work probably tripled the time I got our of my bearings. It also gave you a more solid riding feel, eliminated the hinged in the middle feel you get on hard pack trails at times.

I just changed out all the double bearing in my TS kit, all bad, the double bearing setup actually puts more stress on the bearings than the old single bearing cups, just fewer complaints because a failed bearing has a poor but still operating one beside it that allows you to get home. Pulled a ts apart last week, one bearing in the double cup just fell out in pieces, broken race, side stress all the way.

 

[CATSLEDMAN1]

flexible cracking..........oh crap

I built three kits using spherical self centering bearings like Arctic cat and POlaris used for 20 years. This setup allows for some sideplate flex without overstressing the bearing. I had to routinely replace my bearing, side stress is always the issue, they will run dry a long time as long as you are not stressing the bearings with side loads.

Out of the box on any of the kits, any possible side load stress on the bearing from inconsistency in manufacture fitting will take out bearing real fast. The new 18 TS kits will be a step towards minimizing that due to CNC parts as opposed to jig welded frames that are not all the same..............as brakes don't always work.

The kit I built and rode the most I added two cross bars a head of the track, side plate to side plate to cut down on side flex. I added a welded in brace behind at the counter shaft to brace the top of the side plate to the frame. Later I fabbed mounts and connected the side plates to the back of the foot pegs on my WR450. That work probably tripled the time I got our of my bearings. It also gave you a more solid riding feel, eliminated the hinged in the middle feel you get on hard pack trails at times.

I just changed out all the double bearing in my TS kit, all bad, the double bearing setup actually puts more stress on the bearings than the old single bearing cups, just fewer complaints because a failed bearing has a poor but still operating one beside it that allows you to get home. Pulled a ts apart last week, one bearing in the double cup just fell out in pieces, broken race, side stress all the way.

 

[Pedec]

My 2013 timbersled sx has the single bearing and I have put 26 hours on it so far and bearings are still good, kit was new this spring. I was going to do double bearing but not sure if it worth it now. I have heard of guys getting 80 hours on single bearings kits. I think a lot of the failures have to do with over tight chains causing problems. I run a small spring on my tightener which keeps chain tension just right all the time. I also grease my bearings after ever ride one squirt a piece and rotate track after to make sure new grease gets on all the bearings. Also track tension not to tight helps and chains lubed after every ride. I put some hooks on the roof in my garage so I can hang back of track in the air so I can run track while lubing chain. When everything is adjusted and lubed up right I can put bike in first gear and track will turn on a idle and not kill the motor. Watch next ride I will have a bad bearing haha.