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BCA bottle diy fill with pcp pump

blastco2

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Started a thread about this on dootalk a couple of weeks ago.

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Picked this up on amazon for 159. It is a 3 stage pump good for at least 3000psi. So far it functions as expected. I have yet to completely fill a bottle. What i have done is to connect a full bottle and was able to raise the pressure about 100 psi with 8 or 9 strokes. It will probably take in the range of 200 to fill an empty bottle. I'll find out in the next day or so when I do the anual test. 2 packs, will test and refill both.

ElitePower Airgun PCP Pump High Pressure Hand Pump,Up to 4500 psi https://www.amazon.c...d_as6owb98CDCKV



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Well, I finally had time to deploy and refill. It works. It is more work than I expected. Good upper body workout. It is a 3 stage pump, up stroke draws air in and compresses stage 2, down compresses stage 1 & 3. Stage 3 is about 3/16" dia. I placed the bottle as high as the hose would allow while pumping. Hoping any moisture would condense in the hose. I openned the bleed valve serveral times during the process. Got some silicone oil from the pump and very little if any water. NWS reports, humidity 44%.

Strokes & pressure
25 250
125 1000
200 1500
275 2000
330 2400
360 2700

Over all, I'm happy with the pump. My group travels out of town a couple of times a year for a week at a time. If a refill is needed it can be done without screwing around trying to find a scuba shop at 6000' in winter. I've tried the FD fill thing and the fire chief in Rexburg is very against filling. Real putz! The dive shop in Idaho falls is a 50 mile round trip and might even be open when I get there. Got a bottle filled there once in three tries. 150 miles and serveral hours to fill once...I'm done with that... dont know about the paint ball shops... I thought they used carbon dioxide, not filling my bottle with that!
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[quote uid=111424 name="Minnesota FreeRide" post=14101145 timestamp=1447719889]360 "easy strokes" or not so easy?[/quote]Higher pressure = more resistance. The up stroke never changes. The down stroke gets tougher. If you can mtn ride, you can fill the bottle. I'm old and did 2 in one evening. The second bottle seemed to fill a little faster. Felt like the pump was "broke in". I didnt hear air leaking past the intake valve as often on the second bottle. Pump does get warm. Hot if you get too vigorous. This not a fast as you can go operation. Up, pause for half second, down at a moderate steady rate. Full travel both directions.

No one in my group has to worry about a refill. If you are in a slide, deploy immediately. We will refill the same day. Also, no reason not to do the annual test. If someone from another group needs a fill, thats fine too.

If anyone else purchases this type pump, please post your findings.

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I've been looking at these hand pumps for Large Bore air rifles as well... I've even seen some interesting motor powered drivers for these on youtube

I've been eyeballing the Benjamin pump.
http://www.amazon.com/Benjamin-High-Pressure-Hand-Pump/dp/B00460IFPW/ref=sr_1_cc_6

From a post on 10-08-2015

I know that large bore air rifle guys are using the high pressure hand pumps for this... easy/light to transport...

HMM... Has me thinking. Portable, light and keep it in the truck for road trips... heck, light enough to pack for air travel as well.

There are quite a few of 3600 and 4500 PSI units available.

Anyone with experience with these?

The Benjamin and Air-Venturi brands are, IMO, affordable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TGC9ZPO
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00460IFPW
http://www.pyramydair.com


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I have a coworker that is into the pcp rifles in a fairly big way. He gave me some general advice on the pump. However his main pump is a "shoebox compressor". Feed it air from a shop compressor, has 2 stages, final is 3/16 dia x about 3" stroke. Takes about 8 hrs to fill 2 scba bottles to 4500 psi. Im not into the pcp guns, at least not yet. So, i dont see the need for more compressor than the pump that is linked to in the 1st post. Same as the 2nd one in the first pic. Came with enough parts to rebuild a couple of times and 2 or 3 oz of silicone oil. A longer hose than the Benj. Folding feet. A blank male qd plug for the hose. The supplied qd coupler is correct for the bca bottle. I made a bungee from 3/8 shock cord to keep the pump closed and control the hose. I intend to keep it in my trailer for the winter.
 
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N2O

can You fill the tank with nitrogen? does it have to be oxygen

They are not using Oxygen, compressed atmospheric air is all. You can use Nitrogen, that's what I use and that's what ABS systems use. Most don't have access to high pressure N2O.
 
Never fill with co2, carbon dioxide. Probably end up with a flat bag and a bottle full of dryice.
 
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