Avy Buoy?

[aphoric]

This might be an interesting entry into avy safety. Anyone know anything about these, I was thinking it was worth it to pick one up, I think they are $100.
http://rotauf.ch/en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivHjIr_Ur7M

 

[gmustangt]

Intresting...

The problem i see with it is the buoy could be 20 ft away from u... Or however long the rope is.. so you would see the buoy and if the rope is burried youd have to dig along the rope all yhe way to the victem...

 

[2Thetopp]

Interesting concept, yet another tool to help your chances, rope is 5 meters long. I'd be concerned that they would find you by seeing the bouy, following the rope, only to find you strangled with the rope wrapped around your neck.

 

[deschutes]

I think the fact that you have to: "grip the handle and cast it away" is a bit optimistic.

 

[-lenny-]

A strikingly similar product listed under "obsolete gear" on the Canadian Avalanche Center website.

http://www.avalanche.ca/cac/gear/obsolete

 

[joel97mustang]

Avy Buoy

I am always amazed at the naysayers of pretty much all AVY equipment. People are still ripping AVY bags.

Training does not guarantee survival. Watch "A Few More Turns". Lot's of professional guides there and they can't tell it's AVY terrain??

I wondered what the first guy who came up with the 1st parachute, AVY beacon, seat belt, air bag, helmet, etc. had to put up with?

I would like to see more of the ingenuity we bring to our sport (aftermarket parts, modding, gear, etc.) specifically relating to development of improved AVY rescue equipment.

Here is my idea

How about a AVY beacon that also has a GPS locator attached. The Garmin Rhino is a radio and GPS that is linked to other handhelds in your group showing the location of other riders in the group.

Maybe this could work for locating AVY victims??

Any other ideas?

 

[towerrigger]

The Avy packs should come with these as an addition to the bag that deploys. The cord wrapped around the neck thing is a valid point as well. That could easily happen with the tossing and turning that would be going on.

 

[Norona]

I am always amazed at the naysayers of pretty much all AVY equipment. People are still ripping AVY bags.

Training does not guarantee survival. Watch "A Few More Turns". Lot's of professional guides there and they can't tell it's AVY terrain??

I wondered what the first guy who came up with the 1st parachute, AVY beacon, seat belt, air bag, helmet, etc. had to put up with?

I would like to see more of the ingenuity we bring to our sport (aftermarket parts, modding, gear, etc.) specifically relating to development of improved AVY rescue equipment.

Here is my idea

How about a AVY beacon that also has a GPS locator attached. The Garmin Rhino is a radio and GPS that is linked to other handhelds in your group showing the location of other riders in the group.

Maybe this could work for locating AVY victims??

Any other ideas?

I agree with you as many ideas are squandered before they have time to see if they really work. It is the early adopters who bring most things to the average consumer.

However it is peoples nature to find ways of which stuff won't work and this can stifle inventors if they let it.

This idea above looks like something that could be refined upon and along with some of the issues mentioned I think something you have to pull is always a crap shoot on if you actually pull it, especially if you don't practise over and over.

GPS in beacons is another interesting idea, however one thing to consider is when you buy a beacon with lots of bells and whistles now like altitude etc. it eats battery life.

There are always ways around these problems and it is cool that there are amazing inventors out there coming up with interesting products all the time, some may not work but other will! Nothing beats proper training though!

 

[newmy1]

GPS of any kind would not work if buried...

 

[aphoric]

GPS of any kind would not work if buried...

This will change. Signals from your beacon travel through the snow. Using current consumer tech, available in smart phones (gps+gyroscope), gyro data could be used once the SNR is too low. New GPS sats are launching in the next few years.

 

[Matte Murder]

I thought something like this should be deployed from your avy pack when it blows too. We put powder cords on our skis and they work pretty good. Most burials are pretty shallow and a cord would be a really fast way to find somebody shallow. Put a noise maker and an LED light on it would be slick too. Just one more simple fairly cheap tool.

 

[joel97mustang]

Avy Buoy

This will change. Signals from your beacon travel through the snow. Using current consumer tech, available in smart phones (gps+gyroscope), gyro data could be used once the SNR is too low. New GPS sats are launching in the next few years.

Yeah I was thinking if you are grouped with two or three riders (with beacons/GPS) the beacons would signal/poll/synchronize with each other constantly to triangulate position to minimize search area. It would seem a natural fit for GPS and beacon. If a rider is in an avalanche even if the beacon loses the rider's position it won't be at the start of an avalanche it will be near the end. A last known position co-ordinate (to start a search) would put you closer to the victim than none.