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Avalanche in Holt (Gorman)

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The witnesses just sat there and watched him as he was trying to dig
himself out. He was lucky to get his arm up in the right direction and then
felt his fingers break through. He then dug his helmet out and was losing
oxygen. Said he could barely breath and was pretty scared. He screamed for
help and motioned for the guys who were watching to come over and help him
and no one moved. They commented after "hey that was some ride you went
for"..he was too much in shock to even say anything to them. Poor dude. These A-holes should give their head a shake and learn some back country common sense. Maybe take an Avy course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those tools should loose their sleds for a year!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
His riding partner was at the top, kind of on this rock or ledge or something and he saw it happen. So when the “dust” settled and he could see again he went looking for the victim. He thought he was more towards to top but he was 300 or so meters down. When he dug himself out he yelled to the guys at the bottom for help and they didn’t come and then I guess when he got out a bit more, then his partner finally saw him and came down to rescue him.

Remember he was flushed through a gully, up 20 meters and out of the gully again. The riding buddy was way up top and probably didn’t notice him. The vic was way on the other side of the gully.
 
Hey Dave glad to hear you made it through that.As far as the people that sat and watched they are pretty low. If I was there and beening spinal cord injured I would have beem there to help in any way I could. I am having a rough time wondering what was going through their lazy azz heads.Could of been any one of them. If I was riding in their group it would be my last ride with them as they are not anyone to trust to save their own.
Glad you made it though. After our bad start with snow than rain and warm temps I think there will be more slides this year yhan last year. I'll be taking an avy course this season for sure.

Cheers,
Dave
 
Damn:mad:
Big white hills freak me out:eek:
Trust the team you are riding with and stop to watch when your pals take the hill. Live to ride another day:beer;
Oh yeah.....and get educated;)
RS
 
the lazy butts at the bottom are probably the same guys that steal sleds and fuel, too.
 
People like that have no place in the back country. Sure each person or group should be equipped well enough to be self sustaining in the back country, but that doesn't mean you don't help someone else when they need it. From the description of the incident it is pretty safe to assume they have absolutely no idea about avalanche danger or rescue, or they were just too worried about looking cool posing on their sleds.

Heads up out there boys, look after each other, whether you know the guy or not.

nate
 
good to hear nobody was lost in that slide, looked nasty from the shots, too bad those douchbags didnt bother to help, some people just dont have a clue.
WE had an incident at our mx track like that this summer where a club member was hurt, k.o'd on the on the side of the track, and the other guys that were there early just kept on riding lap after lap by him...... and did not bother to stop and help him out. unreal
 
I think most of us(back country riders) know we assume a certain amount of risk when we do what we do, it's not knitting class, it is considered an extreme sport for a reason. With that assupmtion of risk also comes the assumption of responsibility... a responsibilty to everyone in your group as well as everyone on the mountain to be safe and to look out for one another. I ve been on the mountain broke down or stupidly out of fuel and 95% of people either stop or at least give you a hand signal to see if you need help. Last year on boulder we a had a sled with a broken kill switch within twenty minutes we had literally 25 sleds stopped all looking through there tools and trying to help us out. Ive seen people give up full cans of fuel, or offer to tow broke down sleds, without any concern of what it will do to rest of their day with no expectation of anything in return, because they understand that the next time it COULD BE THEM. I think that this is the true nature of the brotherhood of snowmobilers I know. These idiots don't deserve to even call themselves "back country riders"
 
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I think most of us(back country riders) know we assume a certain amount of risk when we do what we do, it's not knitting class, it is considered an extreme sport for a reason. With that assupmtion of risk also comes the assumption of responsibility... a responsibilty to everyone in your group as well as everyone on the mountain to be safe and to look out for one another. I ve been on the mountain broke down or stupidly out of fuel and 95% of people either stop or at least give you a hand signal to see if you need help. Last year on boulder we a had a sled with a broken kill switch within twenty minutes we had literally 25 sleds stopped all looking through there tools and trying to help us out. Ive seen people give up full cans of fuel, or offer to tow broke down sleds, without any concern of what it will do to rest of their day with no expectation of anything in return, because they understand that the next time it COULD BE THEM. I think that this is the true nature of the brotherhood of snowmobilers I know. These idiots don't deserve to even call themselves "back country riders"

Well there Cory that was an excellent post. Best one yet.So where did you go on Saturday and Sunday? Sorry I didn't hook up with you the guys I drove out there with had a problem getting going early and I didn't want to hold you back.Pretty serious sounding avy makes me say eeek.
Are you going out this weekend?Let me Know >

Cheers,
Dave
 
With the thin snow base and cold temps we are going to see a lot of faceting which is not good. If we get a rain crust on top of it before it snows it will even be worse. This will probably cause problems all season long. Be careful out there.
 
I'm another one on board with EEEKFACTOR,be prepaired for the BackCountry Riding and take care of each other out there,regardless if they are in your goup or not.Cheers Red Dog:beer;
 
Can someone post the GPS coordinates of the slide so we can positively identify the slope on Google Earth. Might help to keep someone out of harms way in the future.
 
Can someone post the GPS coordinates of the slide so we can positively identify the slope on Google Earth. Might help to keep someone out of harms way in the future.

Can someone please also post the GPS co-ordinates of the meatheads that just stood there? I think we should all go say "hi". I've never heard anything like that, ever, in any mountain situation.... ever.
 
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