Avalanche - I wonder if they made it out

[Jeff C]

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IItP7dVoYc&NR=1




That one looks pretty deep on the bottom, was this anyone on here?

 

[Jeff C]

This one is a bit odd as the avy broke well above this guy who got stuck.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPE64boPZQ&NR=1

 

[MARCUSO]

This one is a bit odd as the avy broke well above this guy who got stuck.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPE64boPZQ&NR=1

Nothing odd about that.
Avalanches can be triggered from the bottom of the slope, that is where the slabs have all the compression. For a weak later, such as hoar frost to collapse, A starting zone is different than a trigger spot.. A starting zone is just where the avy begins, not where it is started neccessarily.

As for ther first video, 2 people on a slope greatly complicates the rescue efforts and adds greater stress to the snowpack. Note the obvious terrain trap below.

 

[dycker]

This one is a bit odd as the avy broke well above this guy who got stuck.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPE64boPZQ&NR=1

The only odd thing I would say is highmarking underneath a big a$$ cornice

 

[SnowBigDeal]

Nothing odd about that.
Avalanches can be triggered from the bottom of the slope, that is where the slabs have all the compression. For a weak later, such as hoar frost to collapse, A starting zone is different than a trigger spot.. A starting zone is just where the avy begins, not where it is started neccessarily.

As for ther first video, 2 people on a slope greatly complicates the rescue efforts and adds greater stress to the snowpack. Note the obvious terrain trap below.

Yep.

Why do we as snowmobilers continue to have two people on the slope?

 

[jsledder]

I happened across those too, while I was busy watching the race, and that first one didn't look it had a good outcome unless there was some escape route that we couldn't see. Hope it had a happy ending with some dirty shorts and lesson learned.

 

[cmantle1]

Yep.

Why do we as snowmobilers continue to have two people on the slope?

And why do fellow machiners pickout windloaded, terrain traps?

I see it to often....

 

[U turn]

Yep.

Why do we as snowmobilers continue to have two people on the slope?

Not only 2 people on a slope, but 2 people cutting horizontially across the slope. As for the second video, I hope the outcome was OK, that's a lot of snow above the stuck sledder.

 

[Jaynelson]

2 guys, sidehilling, over a bunch of trees, on a bunch of fresh snow....I hate to say "asking for it," buuuuuuut......

 

[ARCTIC DUCK]

yep, bad choices on that first slide, bad luck on the second.

 

[800poodragon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU__t3-KiVM

This was quite the slide....I do believe Trennis still sleds tho....not like they say...

 

[SHEFFY40]

This one is a bit odd as the avy broke well above this guy who got stuck.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPE64boPZQ&NR=1

Climbing below that huge cornice was just asking for trouble= plain stupidity

 

[SAWYER]

wow

 

[MARCUSO]

yep, bad choices on that first slide, bad luck on the second.

And bad choice in the second.

Take an avalanche course. There are 2 obvious signs that it is not safe in the second vid.

 

[SLEDHEAD V1]

YES some mistakes were made .I just hope every one made it out OK .Iam not here to ripp on any budies missfortune .Its to easy for us to bash after the fact

 

[cmantle1]

And bad choice in the second.

Take an avalanche course. There are 2 obvious signs that it is not safe in the second vid.

agreed, those coarse show you so much that seems plain obvious nw, but that i wouldnt have thought of before....

 

[SnowBigDeal]

YES some mistakes were made .I just hope every one made it out OK .Iam not here to ripp on any budies missfortune .Its to easy for us to bash after the fact

My first thought is that I hope everyone made it out OK. I am not here to bash anyone as I have made many mistakes as well. Hopefully my comments as well as those from others are not to bash, rather than to help point out the mistakes so that others can learn from them. The best way to survive an avalanche is to not get caught in one! The best way to not get caught in one is Education!

 

[SLEDHEAD V1]

My first thought is that I hope everyone made it out OK. I am not here to bash anyone as I have made many mistakes as well. Hopefully my comments as well as those from others are not to bash, rather than to help point out the mistakes so that others can learn from them. The best way to survive an avalanche is to not get caught in one! The best way to not get caught in one is Education!

VERY WELL SAID .we all make mistakes

 

[Viper5]

WOW that avy in the 1st vid is huge any other info on these

 

[TEC800]

And bad choice in the second.

Take an avalanche course. There are 2 obvious signs that it is not safe in the second vid.

i will be taking a course this fall. signs maybe not as obvious to me
1- cornice
2- no trees (runout)???

please correct me if i am wrong