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Avalanche Air Bags, the next mandatory piece of winter mountain equipment

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WARY

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For the past 9 years we have been conducting avalanche testing of avalanche air bags in both large and very large avalanches in British Columbia and Nevada. One thing we have learned for certain is that avalanche air bags are going to become your next mandatory piece of winter mountain gear, and that if you don’t already own one or aren’t thinking of getting one then you are playing with your life as you ski, snowboard or snowmobile in avalanche country.

We manufacture one of the many avalanche air bags that are available, and each year we produce somewhere between 5 to 15 class 2 and 3 sized avalanches that take our equipment on sometimes mile long runs at near 100 miles an hour. We pick our slope by helicopter, lower the avalanche airbags onto the mountainside, and then use bombs to start the slide. Sometimes we will bomb a cornice and drop an entire mountaintop’s worth of snow onto the slope to start the avalanche, and the avalanche air bags (tethered to life sized crash test dummies and snowmobiles) are slammed into by Volkswagon sized chunks of snow traveling at high speed. Most of the time we drop our bombs right next to the avalanche air bags to imitate a skier or snowmobiler triggered slide. In both of these types of avalanches we can see the bright red avalanche air bags inside the avalanche most of the time, and they tend to ride out at the front of the avalanche. Anyone within ¾ of a mile of the avalanche can watch the avalanche air bags sliding down the entire mountain. Another tendency we often notice is that avalanche air bags invariably move to the sides or flanks of the avalanches as they slow to a stop, and we don’t usually find the bags out in the middle of the avalanche debris field.

Bottom line, unless the avalanche air bag is destroyed by a rock or a tree we always find the avalanche air bags either fully exposed or partially exposed on the surface of the snow.

Avalanche air bags are the next mandatory piece of winter mountain gear to go with your beacon, shovel and probe.
 
post up some vids i already have a abs bag but i would like to convince my buddies into spending the money on it. whats better new track ect or your life?
 
A vest isn't much good for my riding. I wear a back pack with lots of gear in it, and giving up all that survival gear fora vest isn't going to happen.

I refused to pay the "inflated" prices for the airbag packs available last winter. This winter I made a deposit for three airbags from BCA the Float 30. The price is less than $500 and I can still pack all my gear in the back pack. The stuff I pack has saved more than a few "hero's" that do not pack anything when they head out to the mountains.
 
I would say equally important is an AST 1 avalanche safety coarse.You can not put a price on yours or your riding buddies lives.We,ll spend upwards of 15,000 on a sled but not spend anything or cheap out on safety gear.
A digital beacon,good shovel and probe are so important.
In my opinion Western sled dealers should be including this as a complete package with every new sled sale.I know of one reputable dealer that does,hope its not long till others follow instead of having us just sign waivers.
Dave
 
Air bags

There is more than one way to carry survival gear. The air bags increase your chance of survival, if you can afford a sled you can't afford not to get an air bag. The cost of the bag is secondary to the importance of wearing it, how can you afford not to wear it?

I carry both the survival gear and the air bag, the gear goes on the back of the sled. I'd feel very silly if I was in a survial situation without the survival gear or air bag becuase I was wanting to get caught up in all the - getting your to the lightest wieght thing.

It's intersting how we all get caught up in the wieght thing and I admitt I like a light sled as well but, carring the extra weight hasn't hampered my fun much and I think I ride as hard as I'm able and keep pushing my self. If I didn't carry the extra stuff on the back of the sled I may go a little further and get stuck a few times less.

Some of the places people ride are 40 to 50 km before you even get to the riding areas so if you end up with a problem as you all know it could be bad if not properly prepared.

My opinion, Will
 
Watch your choice of words. Mandatory, sounds a little too big brotherish, or Nanny stateish, perhaps.... Next Great piece of Safety equipment. Because, the way this administration is headed, we're likely to see our back country deemed too dangerous, and too expensive to rescue out of, therefore closed to the public.

I agree my next purchase will be an avalanche air bag of some sort... But it will be by my choice..... thinking between the snopulse and the BCA... any thoughts on which is better, keeping in mind the price differential...$1000.00 vs. $500.00?
 
Jtoo,

After considering all of them, I chose the BCA product. I certainly like the $500 price point better, I'm married, and bought 2, but more importantly to me, I can train and practice with it. The procedure for 'recharging' the canister is still up for discussion (see other thread about the BCA pack) but in the end, I believe it is designed for easier re-charging. That's my two reasons for my choice.
 
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there are three avy packs now on the market. The snow-pulse is in it's second year now cost around a $1100cnd, the BCA pack is not even availlable yet and is being sold for around $700cnd, ABS is in it's 26th year and has a very inpressive track record and starts at $1100cnd and up to $1250cnd depending on the model you choose. RMX has brought back a new design of the ABS mono pack (the pack that most of ABS stats are based on) and is selling it for $700cnd. I have a ABS vario pack that I bought last year and paid $1250 for it, I have looked at the mono this year at the snow shows and it looks like it would have filled my needs the same as my vario, too bad the mono wasn't here last year I am sure I would have bought it and saved myself $500 but it wasn't and I desided that I wasn't going to spend money on a pack that no one could tell me if it would work or not. ABS was and still is the only company that can say our packs work, they are the only one that has any stats! Get ahold of Keith at Rocky Mountain Xtreem and I am sure he would fix you up with the mono for pretty close to the BCA pack. Think of the stats!
 
WARI how much is the vest going to cost? I like the idea and am totally leaning toward this system this year. I would also like to know how the vest fits over a tek vest and a klim coat. Good on ya for thinking outside the box!!
 
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