Guys, I come from a Motorcycle background and was wondering how to set my stock 2006 Apex MTX with BD Turbo suspension up for the proper sag for my weight while standing. I plan to ride 80% in the deep powder boondocking around Cooke City, MT. I am a heavy guy at 250# and want to see what I can do with the stock setup before trying to go to new suspension. For example on a dirt bike you measure the distance from the axle to fender while on a stand, while standing under its own weight and then with you on it in the standing position to define the spring compression settings and also if you need a stiffer spring but I do not know where to start on a Apex?
Apex Stock Suspension Sag Settings
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If you are that big of a dude you will need to set the springs as stiff as they will go because you'll overpower them they aren't spec'd to carry that weight, they are for a guy about 180 or so. The stock shocks are not adjustable. In all honesty the stock skid is all but useless on a stock sled let alone a turbo one. I know where you are coming from having just laid out the $$ for the sled but do yourself a favour and get rid of that skid it is a total POS weighs a ton and you'll be stuck all the time. While you are in there throw on the Avids and a Camo extreme 2.5". JMO
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M5, Can I make the current setup work with aftermarket shocks and stiffer springs for my weight or is a hole new complete skid the only way to go?
If so what skid works best for boondocking in deep powder with a turbo?
Is the stock track that bad and can I make it work or does it require change out also?
If so what skid works best for boondocking in deep powder with a turbo?
Is the stock track that bad and can I make it work or does it require change out also?
Yeah, what he said.
I have an '07 and the track and skid are junk!! Nothing good about them, save yourself the headache and save your buddies the backache.
Lot of people getting brand new models of this year's skids, might be able to get a deal on a hand me down.
I have an '07 and the track and skid are junk!! Nothing good about them, save yourself the headache and save your buddies the backache.
Lot of people getting brand new models of this year's skids, might be able to get a deal on a hand me down.
my dads tnytro has the stock skid with upgraded shocks and springs to handle the boost.. It still doesn;t work.
IMO a new skid is the way to go. You'll end up dickin around all season trying to make it work and will probably end up spending a whole ton of $$ in the end anyways. The skid has pretty well no redeeming features. The arms are crappy geometry for approach angle, the shocks are crap, the rails are tipped up which makes your turbo sled into a wheelie monster and the springs are too soft not to mention that the whole mess weighs 70+ lbs. Thats the bad news. The good news is there are a ton of great options out there for you both new and used. In all honesty anything will be an improvement. For a cheap upgrade look for a 162 Cat take out skid as new as you can afford they usually go for under $1000.00 and work decent. The Fox Floats are kinda crap but they are better than the Yami shocks by a long shot and the skid doesn't have tipped up rails. It won't be a great climber but they boondock pretty well for the $$. If you want to spend more the options are endless and everyone will have an opinion on whats the best so do some research. If you still have the Maverick again do yourself a favour and ditch it for a CE and do the drivers with Avids while you are in there. Some would say, myself included, that you now have the best engine ever put in a sled so you might as well build around it. The Apex is an awesome sled for a big dude (my 150 lb son rode one all last year and he can make that thing dance) and properly set up you'll probably be riding it for years so don't be afraid to throw a few more $$ at it if you can possibly manage it. JMO good luck with your project.
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Will a cat skid mount up directly and excuse my lack of sled knowledge but what are Avids and the advantage over stock?
The 162 Cat skid is not a "Direct Bolt In" but its close. The center to center distance is 1/4" shorter than the Yami one. You might or might not need to move the rear drop brackets but for sure the front arm mounts up and further forward in the tunnel than the Yami skid. Avids are CNC machined drivers pretty much standard equipment on most turbo sleds. The turbo will eventually either spin or strip your stock Yamaha drivers. Here's a couple of skids for sale that I just noticed.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266171
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http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266171
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I have a holtz skid that came from a apex.....complete bolt in...pm me if intrested
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I weigh in around 250 with all my gear and I have a turbo apex with stock suspensions.
However, to keep the nose on the ground and improve my climbing, I went the cheaper route and installed a camoplast exteme 174 and ice age rails. That helped alot and worked good for its worth, but I am currently looking into other suspension options to make it that much better.
However, to keep the nose on the ground and improve my climbing, I went the cheaper route and installed a camoplast exteme 174 and ice age rails. That helped alot and worked good for its worth, but I am currently looking into other suspension options to make it that much better.
Gents,
I still cannot believe that Yamaha produced a totally junk suspension and rail system. I also am amazed the only solution is to throw it away and buy aftermarket. In the motorcycle industry there are countless companies that can make the stock suspension work for anybody in any riding condition without having to replace the complete system. I am going to have to ride it and ride my budies with aftermarket suspension and see if it really is that much better or just the rider.
I still cannot believe that Yamaha produced a totally junk suspension and rail system. I also am amazed the only solution is to throw it away and buy aftermarket. In the motorcycle industry there are countless companies that can make the stock suspension work for anybody in any riding condition without having to replace the complete system. I am going to have to ride it and ride my budies with aftermarket suspension and see if it really is that much better or just the rider.
do u still have the holtz skid for the apex and how much?
