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Another round of stimulus checks???

jsledder

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Osama is on flapping his lips on how he's going to fix the economy, one of his idea's is he wants another round of stimulus checks to go out and he took credit for the first round.

Dump that money into the highway fund and reduce the gas tax!! Rather than raising Wal Mart's stock, again.
 
yeah because the first round did so good.

Does any dipchit that is running actually have any ideas for the economy? WTF? I get so tired of them them flapping gums with uselss nonsense. I would really like to hear a solid plan that would turn this economy around. I know it won't happpen over night but the check thing is retarded
 
yeah Because The First Round Did So Good.

Does Any Dipchit That Is Running Actually Have Any Ideas For The Economy? Wtf? I Get So Tired Of Them Them Flapping Gums With Uselss Nonsense. I Would Really Like To Hear A Solid Plan That Would Turn This Economy Around. I Know It Won't Happpen Over Night But The Check Thing Is Retarded

X2!!!

im Still Waiting For My First One. Mails Out July 5th

X2!!!
 
I have not seen where he is claiming credit for the last rouind, do you have a link?

Here is his plan:
http://obama.3cdn.net/8335008b3be0e6391e_foi8mve29.pdf
I realyl don't know enough about it, to comment on it. I don't know if his plan is a good idea or not, but I do think, something needs to be done.


A link???? No. I was watching him LIVE, giving a speech. Wasn't reading it on the internet. I'm sure it's on there somewhere but I've got better things to do, heard him say it so that's all that matters to me.
 
yeah because the first round did so good.

Does any dipchit that is running actually have any ideas for the economy? WTF? I get so tired of them them flapping gums with uselss nonsense. I would really like to hear a solid plan that would turn this economy around. I know it won't happpen over night but the check thing is retarded

One guy did, but he had common sense so he was called a nut job....
 
the dems only have three ideas.

1. tax everybody more

2.spend more

3. brain wash everbody into thinking the government is the cure all


Wrong, wrong and wrong again.

Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief
Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Barack Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide
150 million workers the tax relief they deserve. Obama will create a new “Making Work Pay” tax credit of up
to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. This refundable income tax credit will provide direct relief
to American families who face the regressive payroll tax system. It will offset the payroll tax on the first $8,100
of their earnings while still preserving the important principle of a dedicated revenue source for Social Security.
The “Making Work Pay” tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans. The tax
credit will also provide relief to self-employed small business owners who struggle to pay both the employee
and employer portion of the payroll tax. The “Making Work Pay” tax credit offsets some of this selfemployment
tax as well.


Here is the Bush/McCain plan:

1. Spend money like teenager with a credit card
2. Lower taxes
3. Make money for large corporations with disregard for the citizens of this country

Everyone keeps talking about how the Dems will just spend money. What do you think we are doing right now? We will never pay this money back with the Republicans plan. How is it possible to lower taxes and spend more money? It's not.

Maybe if we haven't been recklessly spending/wasting money with the current administration the next administration wouldn't have to raise taxes.

Obama's plan removes the tax cuts for those making $200,000 or more. Not exactly a middle class tax increase, is it?
 
I read it, I will save you some time. IT'S CRAP!!! just dressed a little dif:mad:.

Might want to spend a little more time on your argument and less time finding the correct number of times to hit enter to get the spacing you want. Just a thought. :face-icon-small-win
 
Wrong, wrong and wrong again.




Here is the Bush/McCain plan:

1. Spend money like teenager with a credit card
2. Lower taxes
3. Make money for large corporations with disregard for the citizens of this country

Everyone keeps talking about how the Dems will just spend money. What do you think we are doing right now? We will never pay this money back with the Republicans plan. How is it possible to lower taxes and spend more money? It's not.

Maybe if we haven't been recklessly spending/wasting money with the current administration the next administration wouldn't have to raise taxes.

Obama's plan removes the tax cuts for those making $200,000 or more. Not exactly a middle class tax increase, is it?

How quickly they forget.
Everyone laughed when Reagon started his trickle down economics plan.
They said "how can you cut taxes, give tax breaks to big buisness and still balance the budget, it's laughable". When it worked everyone was amazed.

This is how you do it.
By cutting taxes on big buisness, big buisness invests more into their company and pays their employees more. That is a proven fact. It has happened time and time again so for the love of god, spare me the liberal montra.

When you lower taxes, people have more money to spend and thus buy more stuff that creates more profits for companies that then expand and creates more jobs.

As for the reckless spending, you need to back up and look to the dems. They promised an end to ear marks and set asides only to more than double them.

Oh, and how does letting buisnesses grow larger and create more jobs hurt america citizens??

As for taxing the dog snot out of the rich, look at this............

Tax system explained


Bar stool economics

Suppose that every day, then men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes it would go something like this……………….

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that is what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.”

Drinks for the men now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.

But what about the other six men – the paying customers?
How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his “fair share”?

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. but if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each of the man’s bill by roughly the same amount. And he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing. (100 percent savings)
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3. (33% savings)
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7. (28% savings)
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12. (25% savings)
The nineth now paid $14 instead of $18. (22% savings)
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59. (16% savings)

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restraurant , the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20”, declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got $10!”
“yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I”.
“That’s true!!” Shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I only got 2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”
“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!.

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half the bill!

And that, ladies and gentlemen is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

For those that understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
 
How quickly they forget.
Everyone laughed when Reagon started his trickle down economics plan.
They said "how can you cut taxes, give tax breaks to big buisness and still balance the budget, it's laughable". When it worked everyone was amazed.

This is how you do it.
By cutting taxes on big buisness, big buisness invests more into their company and pays their employees more. That is a proven fact. It has happened time and time again so for the love of god, spare me the liberal montra.

The problem with relying on the growth model is that when it doesn't grow you are hosed! That is the situation we are in now. We base our actions now on trying to make the near future better and more prosperous. The problem is that we hurt our selves in the short term, and if the growth doesn't happen, the long term too. Most developed countries have pretty low growth rates, especially compared to developing countries like China and India. With the stock markets down, oil prices high, the housing market down, I think being able to stimulate the economy so it can grow rapidly is difficult to do.

It seems that we are at a time where it is not growth we need, but to keep the country from shrinking economically. This requires a different fiscal model based upon more steady state goals, and steady state future behavior.

Anyone got change for a $10?:D
 
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So the question is: since when is an econmic slow down a 'bad' thing..? Constantly being hit over the head about how bad the economy is, yet, is it bad or just really difficult times for some that don't plan to well? The rhetoric is repeated on this site a hundred times a day; yet, same people are pounding away on keyboards, plugged into a wall, hooked up to some net service. How bad is it REALLY? So we can't buy as many toys as we want, or can't buy that 3rd or 4th TV. And before someone flames me about circumstances unique to some poor sole, the old planning thing and life ain't fair are the responses.

Fact is, even in our worst times currently, we are still the richest, most spoiled nation this earth has every seen. Quit your whining, get off your duff and work a little harder. No ones holding you back
 
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