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Air box sealing?

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PowderMiner

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I did a search but no good results...

I'm taking out my air box, 09 Dragon 800, to install powder valves...

I've seen some posts about sealing the box, how and what is the problem?

Anything else, while i'm there?
 
The problem is that the two halves will let belt dust and dirt into the box and eventually into your cylinders. I used clear silicone to seal them together and then use some reflective tape on top of the silicone. It's also a good idea to glue a piece of rubber to the bottom of the rear most lobe so it doesn't wear through from rubbing on the aluminum. Because you sealed the box there is no way for water to drain out now. What I did was go to the hobby store and buy an 1/8" threaded brass nipple and screw it into the back lobe and run a piece of fuel tubing down to an area where I can reach it. Put a plug at the end and drain when necessary.
 
Also there is a slot behind the fuel lines that I sealed (don't if it had been mentioned before) it looks like it would be and even bigger culprit than the airbox seam
 
I've got an 09 700 rmk and notice a lot of moisture inside the airbox today while riding. I have the headlight prefilter and slp air horn. I took off the windshield and need to find some thing to plug those holes with, but I can't figure where the moisture is coming from. Everything seems sealed? Where exactly are you sealing your airbox and hood area?
 
On my 07 and 08 I sealed around the front of the headlight and the 2 little dimples that the windshield fit into.I used clear silicone and used Black Duct tape over the headlight adjuster.I have not sealed up the crack between the 2 halves of the airbox,but will after reading about it here.
 
Someone makes a deal that screws to your airbox and has a k&n filter that sticks up into the headlight area. You remove the factory air horn. Then it don't matter if you leak snow in around the headlight. Anybody seen this?
 
I'm not so sure the K&N example is a good idea for our sleds. You will then be sucking in hot underhood air instead of cool fresh air...and what about the air sensor in the airbox? Just stick in under the hood somewhere and hope for the best???

Sealing off around the headlight, adjustment wheel, and windshield has worked well since at least '07. We've also seen a few guys add a piece of prefilter material over their airhorn just in case some snow does get sucked in.
 
the k-n style filter is made my timbersled and there is good pics of it on their website.the seal job on the airbox itself is the seam that runs right down the middle of the box all the way around.if you take out your airbox you will find that the 2 pieces dont exactly fit together tight.i used 3 inch heat or foil tape all the way around on mine.seems to work good.
 
09 800 CFI Assault

I just did this to my 09 800 CFI.

I removed the airbox, and split it apart, careful to preserve the tabs. To do this I used a razor to bevel the rear locking edge, of the tabs to help them slide out.

Next I smoothed out the prymarks left from my small flat bar, used to separate the case halves. I just used a dulled flat blade screwdriver to reform the ridge that is on the edge of one half, to preserve this factory lip/groove fit.


Next, I read up on sealants and it seems that some silicone is not sensor safe, and my engine has what I think is a Mass Air Flow Sensor in the airbox, but more importantly an 02 sensor in the pipe. (It is an o2 sensor right?:confused:) any how, the silicone can "off gas" and coat your o2 sensor leading to premature failure of the sensor and lost performance, and in rare cases engine damage.

Having said that, I went with Ultra Black RTV, High Temp. Sensor Safe sealant. And layed a bead on one half, and also put some on the upper side of the slot that the air horns sit in, to seal those chambers from each other, and prevent anymore chattering evident on the air horn plate.

I then placed the air horn assembly into the groove, placed the other half on top and lightly snapped them together, and let the sealant set up with the airbox in the "relaxed" state, meaning I did not clamp it all together, as I don't think that RTV has all that good of adhesive strength, And I did not it want to pull apart bouncing down the trail.




I then noticed that the boots that seal the throttle bodies to the airbox have an alternate push lock hole, that needs to be sealed as well, no sense sealing everything up and leaving those two 1/4" holes. Look carefully, they are under the boots, but will let air in. I also smoothed the pushed out RTV along the outer ridge, just for a little more security, and then finished it off with the reflective heat tape.

I could not fit a piece of rubber under the box, though, it simply would not mount on the throttle bodies again.

The only trick I learned is when reinstalling the air box, don't hook any of the fuel and fuel filter lines onto the airbox, until the boots are tight to the throttle bodies.

I also sealed my headlight, and my intake plenum.

One rule of thumb I use also for intake/pre filter area is to add filters/intake area until you can't see the prefilter material "suck in" when you blip your throttle.

Sorry no pics.
 
I just used foil tape over the seams. I also placed some closed cell foam on the rear bracket and on the bottom of the box. The bottom almost had a hole completely wore through and the back wasn't looking to good either. Careful about plugging the lower most wholes. They are there to drain moisture.

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Not to be a Debbie downer, but since you are concerned about sealing things up. You may want to look very very closely at the rubber boots holding the throttle bodies to the motor. Mine wasn't an air box problem. It was much closer to the motor. Check these out.

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As you can see the bond between the rubber and the metal completely failed. As I was pulling my motor the throttle bodies just fell right off. :eek: The sled was on display at haydays too so you can just imagine all the grime that is inside my reed cages. Had I not caught this it would have caused a catastrophic engine failure for sure. Ron stated it may be the ethanol in the fuel. A coworker thought it might be the synthetic oil I'm using. :rolleyes: Regardless it shouldn't happen and you should all check it.
 
Polaris needs their @#$ kicked for putting out product like that. What a shame! If I didnt know better, you would think they are some chinese sled company that just started making sleds 2 years ago.:eek:
 
Exactly. I bet that most of these piston/cylinder problems are related to crap being ingested into the cylinders. Before I sealed my airbox, belt dust grime was found in the throttle bodies. You could wipe your finger in there and sweep crap out. What a badly designed system. Fire n Ice or someone needs to design next years airbox for Polaris. If anyone has seen the 08, it's even worse than the 09+ style and should be number one on your complete replacement list.
 
What a joke. I had a deep powder day yesterday and my airbox was wet all day. I kinda thought all this sealing things up was overkill. Also my buddy broke a crank on his recently updated D8. The primary just shot out the side of the cover! Never seen that before. I thought the 900 I had just sold who was with us would have that problem first! My bro-in-law's D7 caught fire above the pipe too! He was stopping to throw his goggles under the hood and saw flames! What a day!! 600 CFI just stopped running too for about an hour then miraculously just started up again. WTF! Had spark but no fuel. Point is all the CFI poos had water in the airbox among other problems!
 
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