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AIG is out of their freakin' minds - still !

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I also heard a couple weeks ago that the average household of three has paid over $1400 in your/our taxes to bail out these azzhats. And for the clowns on here that said that this was a loan - ya right! You think they are going to pay you back the $1400??

At least Obama is recognizing it - whether action will be taken remains to be seen. Bush would have turned a blind eye.



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Obama will try to block executive bonuses at AIG


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Mar 16, 12:39 PM (ET)

By TOM RAUM

(AP) President Barack Obama gestures during his meeting with Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da...
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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama declared Monday that insurance giant American International Group is in financial straits because of "recklessness and greed" and said he intends to stop it from paying out millions in executive bonuses.

"It's hard to understand how derivative traders at AIG warranted any bonuses, much less $165 million in extra pay," Obama said at the outset of an appearance to announce help for small businesses hurt by the deep recession.

"How do they justify this outrage to the taxpayers who are keeping the company afloat," the president said.

Obama spoke out in the wake of reports that surfaced over the weekend saying that financially strapped American International Group Inc. (AIG) was paying substantial bonuses to executives.

Noting that AIG has "received substantial sums" of federal aid from the federal government, Obama said he has asked Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner "to use that leverage and pursue every legal avenue to block these bonuses and make the American taxpayers whole."

Said Obama: "All across the country, there are people who work hard and meet their responsibilities every day, without the benefit of government bailouts or multimillion-dollar bonuses. And all they ask is that everyone, from Main Street to Wall Street to Washington, play by the same rules."
"This isn't just a matter of dollars and cents," he added. "It's about our fundamental values."

The $165 million was payable to executives by Sunday and was part of a larger total payout reportedly valued at $450 million. The company has benefited from more than $170 billion in a federal rescue.

AIG reported this month that it had lost $61.7 billion for the fourth quarter of last year, the largest corporate loss in history. The bulk of the payments at issue cover AIG Financial Products, the unit of the company that sold credit default swaps, the risky contracts that caused massive losses for the insurer.
 
I'm going to put my flame suit on....

If AIG promised these bonuses to their employees in their contracts, they should get them. We all expect our pay from our employers, these people are no different.

That Obama can play the populist outrage card now is shameful. He voted for the bailout money to pay these guys in the first place, bonuses and all.

Don't be pissed at the bonuses, that's just how business works. Be pissed douschebags like Obama gave them the money in the first place.
 
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But guess what. If MOST companies aren't profitable , they don't pay bonuses - plain and simple. That's business. How do you feel about your $1400+ going to AIG to pay bonuses?? Not "flaming" - just a question.



I'm going to put my flame suit on....

If AIG promised these bonuses to their employees in their contracts, they should get them. We all expect our pay from our employers, these people are no different.
That Obama can play the populist outrage card now is shameful. He voted for the bailout money to pay these guys in the first place, bonuses and all.

Don't be pissed at the bonuses, that's just how business works. Be pissed douschebags like Obama gave them the money in the first place.
 
I'm going to put my flame suit on....

If AIG promised these bonuses to their employees in their contracts, they should get them. We all expect our pay from our employers, these people are no different.

That Obama can play the populist outrage card now is shameful. He voted for the bailout money to pay these guys in the first place, bonuses and all.

Don't be pissed at the bonuses, that's just how business works. Be pissed douschebags like Obama gave them the money in the first place.

It is sad that the govt gave them any money. I don't think I could morally accept bailout money as a "bonus". Regular pay is one thing, but a bonus? Personally, I'd rather see the whole lot go under and we get on with the revolution to make things right again.

My company promised my salary, but it got cut to save the company and others jobs. The choice is still there, if the traders don't like it, I'm sure there are plenty of people to replace them! And if anyone thinks it's ok to squander the money set to save jobs on even one bonus then they should be on the soup line with the crooked dogs that are at the middle of this fiasco!!
 
But guess what. If MOST companies aren't profitable , they don't pay bonuses - plain and simple. That's business. How do you feel about your $1400+ going to AIG to pay bonuses?? Not "flaming" - just a question.


Exactly, not profitable, go under. No bailout. They should have gone under and we shouldn't be having this conversation!

I don't want any of my money to go to AIG for anything. I also don't want government nationalizing businesses and dictating how they are going to do things
 
Agreed .......... did I hear the gov't has something like 80% controlling interest in AIG now ??? They'll keep throwing our money at it now.


Exactly, not profitable, go under. No bailout. They should have gone under and we shouldn't be having this conversation!

I don't want any of my money to go to AIG for anything. I also don't want government nationalizing businesses and dictating how they are going to do things
 
I'm going to put my flame suit on....

If AIG promised these bonuses to their employees in their contracts, they should get them. We all expect our pay from our employers, these people are no different.

That Obama can play the populist outrage card now is shameful. He voted for the bailout money to pay these guys in the first place, bonuses and all.

Don't be pissed at the bonuses, that's just how business works. Be pissed douschebags like Obama gave them the money in the first place.

Are you stupid? A bonus is usually a bone thrown to someone to acheive certain results. I don't know anyone who gets paid a bonus for running a company into the ground. These idiots do not deserve a bonus they deserve to be thrown in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Wasn't it Northwestern Airlines that cut wages and retirements a couple years ago. The Gov't lets companies restructure and renig on their obligations to employees everyday. Why should executives be any different? Because of their pay grade?!
 
Obama stepping up?? WTF!

NO

He just recognizes the people are FED UP, so he throws out a few empty words as he signs the ****in thing

that aint "steppin up"

Kinda like his last bill signing, says "its last years business" and signs the damm thing behind closed doors.


when are the people gonna see thru this chit and get pizzed? His voter base aint gonna do it cause guess what....THEY DON"T PAY TAXES!! well for a large part anyways. Oh ya they got paid, called a "tax rebate",, HOW THE FK YOU GET A REBATE WHEN YOU DIDN"T PAY IN THE FIRST PLACE???

most of his top level cabnit don't pay em either lol
 
Are you stupid? A bonus is usually a bone thrown to someone to acheive certain results. I don't know anyone who gets paid a bonus for running a company into the ground. These idiots do not deserve a bonus they deserve to be thrown in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sorry dude, if I were to do my job and not recieve a bonus promised in my employment contract, because it's politically incorrect too I would be pissed, nothing stupid about that. A lot of the people at AIG don't deserve a bonus, I'm sure there are many that do.

Like I said before, we shouldn't even be having this conversation. AIG should never have been bailed out, and the gov standing over AIG wagging their finger at them over 165 million in bonuses after pissing 50 billion down the drain on them is a joke I won't be a part of. Why be pissed at AIG? Be pissed at the gov, because they ultimately are the root of the problem, all the finger wagging is just a distraction.
 
These people didn't do their job. This company has been run poorly or it would not be in the shape it is in...................So why the hell do you or anyone else think they deserve a bonus? I'm sorry I called you stupid but all this bull**** that is going on pisses me off. These people that are running these companies are nothing but crooks and deserve to be in jail like a common bank robber. And the government bailing them out is bull**** also. They need to let these big corporations fail.
 
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I'm going to put my flame suit on....

If AIG promised these bonuses to their employees in their contracts, they should get them. We all expect our pay from our employers, these people are no different.

That Obama can play the populist outrage card now is shameful. He voted for the bailout money to pay these guys in the first place, bonuses and all.

Don't be pissed at the bonuses, that's just how business works. Be pissed douschebags like Obama gave them the money in the first place.
Sure aig promised bonuses to their employees in contracts. In exchange to be productive & make the co. money. The employees DID NOT HOLD UP THEIR END OF THE CONTRACT! Now did they?:rolleyes: You state " We all expect our pay from our employers". Hell ya! & they in return expect us to produce. These douche buckets did not produce:mad:. So why should they get a bonus, much less a paycheck????

Too bad aig can't garnish your wages to help pay those bonuses since you agree with it.
 
I think you guys don't realize there are many parts to AIG. Insurance, Investment, etc etc. Their idiotic investments drug the well run insurance segment into the ground. If you worked in the insurance half, did your job well, earned your bonus (that's part of your contract), but won't get it because the idiots in investment screwed up and now have Uncle Sam wagging his finger at them, you wouldn't be pissed. I would, but like I've said, they shouldn't have been bailed out in the first place.
 
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