Anyone who is familiar with both these and has any expieriences or opinions?
ABS vs. Avalung
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ABS is to help prevent you from getting buried.
Avalung is to help you breath under the snow in case you get buried.
The avalung integrated into the backpack is a great way to go, but if it were me I would rather have the ABS instead.
Avalung is to help you breath under the snow in case you get buried.
The avalung integrated into the backpack is a great way to go, but if it were me I would rather have the ABS instead.
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Personally I think you have a better chance of pulling the handle on the ABS than getting the breathing tube into your mouth in a high stress situation. Reducing the chances of being buried is the place to start in my opinion.
Are all ABS packs around $1000 us? I know you have to ask yourself how much is your life worth, that is just soooooo much money.
Austin
Austin
Are you kidding me? I dont know about you but id pay a thousand dollars for my life any day. Its an investment.
I agree, my life is way worth that and yes, its an investment. However, my 99% of the time riding area doesnt require me to have one. I would like one for that 1 day of the year that I might ride somewhere that I should have one on. Also, if I had one, I might ride that kind of terrain 2-3 days a year instead of maybe 1. That $800 will pay for alot of fuel for me to ride were I dont need a abs pack.
On a different note, are abs packs basically the same tech. as those C02 powered life vests? You pull the rip cord and they fill up?
Austin
On a different note, are abs packs basically the same tech. as those C02 powered life vests? You pull the rip cord and they fill up?
Austin
Austin you might of hit something there last year these packs were 600.00 but we couldn't get them here in the states this year there a grande.
The guys I ride with I had to supply with becons I'm the only one with a probe so if i get burried I'll be SOL anyway.
Me Too
I'm in the same boat Harv. The price of an ABS pack would finance my gas budget for the year. I don't ride in area's where you can stay on the pin up big pulls. I don't even ride next to those areas. Where we ride it's close, tree'd and while we have rolling hills, there aren't any big areas.
I am enrolled in an avy class on 01/05. I'm going to listen very carefully, because I'm wanting to start traveling and riding new areas. If I'm wrong, I'll go shopping.
But I'll be honest, I'm not into himarking. I think Ollie said it best "if you see me climbing something, I just couldn't figure out a way around".
I don't understand why anyone would hear the avy report and still hit a dangerous slope. Especially one that is known to slide and has caused deaths in the past.
I don't climb and I listen to the report and plan accordingly. I'm not saying people shouldn't climb either, don't go there. Ride where and what you want to, I do.
Yeah, I know, Rainer could erupt and send a sheet of mud and ice heading my way and where would I be then? But I'm thinking I stand a better chance of being killed by someone that thinks driving 75 + miles an hour with thier 27 foot trailer behind them is a G*d D*mn right instead of rash and foolish.
So, in the big picture, I prepare, maintain my sleds and ride safe.
Here's hoping that everyone else out there does too. We've already lost too many good people to bad things.
Bagger
I'm in the same boat Harv. The price of an ABS pack would finance my gas budget for the year. I don't ride in area's where you can stay on the pin up big pulls. I don't even ride next to those areas. Where we ride it's close, tree'd and while we have rolling hills, there aren't any big areas.
I am enrolled in an avy class on 01/05. I'm going to listen very carefully, because I'm wanting to start traveling and riding new areas. If I'm wrong, I'll go shopping.
But I'll be honest, I'm not into himarking. I think Ollie said it best "if you see me climbing something, I just couldn't figure out a way around".
I don't understand why anyone would hear the avy report and still hit a dangerous slope. Especially one that is known to slide and has caused deaths in the past.
I don't climb and I listen to the report and plan accordingly. I'm not saying people shouldn't climb either, don't go there. Ride where and what you want to, I do.
Yeah, I know, Rainer could erupt and send a sheet of mud and ice heading my way and where would I be then? But I'm thinking I stand a better chance of being killed by someone that thinks driving 75 + miles an hour with thier 27 foot trailer behind them is a G*d D*mn right instead of rash and foolish.
So, in the big picture, I prepare, maintain my sleds and ride safe.
Here's hoping that everyone else out there does too. We've already lost too many good people to bad things.
Bagger
i was reading this and been thinking about beacons and different satety equipment that everyone talks about so i was looking around and found a on line place to get these items i was surprised at the cost they didnt seem to be as bad as i have hurd ...
this is the site if interested....
http://www.avalanchetools.com/
it might be that this is where some of you buy your equipment they seem to be more reasonable then what i have seen at local stores that sell the same thing.......
this is the site if interested....
http://www.avalanchetools.com/
it might be that this is where some of you buy your equipment they seem to be more reasonable then what i have seen at local stores that sell the same thing.......
snowbigdeals.com is a great place also just ordered 4 beacons from them and they gave me a $300 credit for probes and shovels.
Probe, shovel and beacon are a absolute, unfortuantley I am still trying to convince the rest of my riding buddies on that. I hope it doesn't take a slide to convince them of that.
Me I'd probaly have to go with the avalung for now, that is what i could afford. My life is worth the price of a abs, but I barely can afford sledding as it is. I just can't justify a abs right now.
Me I'd probaly have to go with the avalung for now, that is what i could afford. My life is worth the price of a abs, but I barely can afford sledding as it is. I just can't justify a abs right now.
us folks in Eastern Washington pray for this to happen everyday... then the state would go back to a red state.. .actually, if just King County would go away....
I have been riding with an ABS pack for almost 4 years. I like it very much - has room for shovel, probe, camera and food & drinks inside. Check out this link - you can even watch a demo on how it works.http://www.rockymountainxtreme.com/
I purchased an ABS bag at the Edmonton Snowmobile show from Rocky Mountain Extreme, they are great to deal with and I would not hesitate to refer anyone to them. This is the best investment you can make, at least if this happens to you you have a chance. For those that think that will never happen to me, you can be wrong, look at all the avy's that hit on hills where you never expected it, and people were killed. I bought the 30L bag, its a perfect size, the price of this being just over a thousand dollars.
RON
RON
Abs15
The way i look at it. . 1000 isnt anything if ur dead. Spend the money. Save ur Life.
Whats more to say?
The way i look at it. . 1000 isnt anything if ur dead. Spend the money. Save ur Life.
Whats more to say?
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Daniel Boondocker
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Just bought one. When someone saw me deploy it in the store for the test, they bought the other one they had left.
I bought a Klim Escape 15.
I test fired it in the living room in front of my wife & kids.
They loved it & it was the first accessory in sledding, drag racing, boat racing & salt water fishing I have bought that my wife didn't hassle me over.
get one...
I test fired it in the living room in front of my wife & kids.
They loved it & it was the first accessory in sledding, drag racing, boat racing & salt water fishing I have bought that my wife didn't hassle me over.
get one...
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richyrich
Member
Im all about safety and it was said earlier, with the ABS you rely on yourself to stay on top of the slide. Not your buddies or witnesses to dig you out in the golden 18minute window. Dont get me wrong, I also wear a Becon, the ABS pack will not replace it. Im a single dad of two boys and Im going to do everything possible to enjoy my sport, but also making sure I come home every day.
As Zacs Tracs mentioned when I took my AST1 class,
They believe that an ABS is good for your chances to recover from burial, but it also puts you face down on the snow, leaving you prone to a chewed up head from rocks..., guess the helmet would save that a bit...
They also mentioned something that was very valid. It's probably just as important, if not more, to invest in good clothing to survive a night in the backcountry... which is probably more likely to happen to everyone,,, I know there were a few nights I thought I was going to.
I realized that knowledge is still the best defense to Avalanches. I am fortunate to not have learned it the hard way. Take a course.
They believe that an ABS is good for your chances to recover from burial, but it also puts you face down on the snow, leaving you prone to a chewed up head from rocks..., guess the helmet would save that a bit...
They also mentioned something that was very valid. It's probably just as important, if not more, to invest in good clothing to survive a night in the backcountry... which is probably more likely to happen to everyone,,, I know there were a few nights I thought I was going to.
I realized that knowledge is still the best defense to Avalanches. I am fortunate to not have learned it the hard way. Take a course.
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AkHockey10
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alrighty, first of all good thread! lotsa interesting comments and first hand witnesses of the two. secondly, what the website linky for the Avalung or whatever? thirdly, maybe, i could find it..but, how bid are the packs? (both), are they heavy, or are they just like any riding pack?
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