800 Xp
- Thread starter Dave.H
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cause it's a doo!!
Myabe spend more time "working out your right fore arm" if you know what I mean..
Like what? Hard to push? Doesn't respond well? Don't know what you're asking.
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Adrenaline Revolution
Well-known member
I have no idea if the following parts will work on an XP because i don't own one but it works great on my REV.
I couldn't possibly Master bate enought to get the work out required to strengthen my right forarm enough so that it did not cramp on long rides so I bought all the following stuff and it relieved more than 1/2 the throttle pressure on the flipper.
Go to a DOO Microfiche like this one...
http://www.cyclepartsnation.com/page...6/default.aspx
select "SKI DOO" and "SKI DOO" (again)from the drop down menus.
then select 1999
then select "Formula"
then select Formula Deluxe 500 LC/583/670
then select "02 fuel system"
Look at about the center of that page.
You need parts...
one ea # 2 SKU: 572028600 Throttle Handle Housing $13.99
one ea # 3 SKU: 572056900 Heat Throttle Handle ***'y $45.59
one ea # 11 SKU: 414440800 Set Screw $2.54
one ea # 8 SKU: 732601143 Flanged Screw M4 $2.40
Remove the throttle cable, remove your grip, then you pull your old trigger assy and trigger mount off your handlebars, slide out the kill switch.
I had to cut the plug off of the new thumb heater and cut the wires from your old thumb heater near the plug (Unless you know how to remove the connectors out from inside the old plug and replace them with the ones out of the new plug)
then just splice them color for color.
slide the new assy back on the bars and slide your old kill swich back in.
reinstall your grip, Re-install the throttle cable and your done.
It's really a pretty easy job.
I couldn't possibly Master bate enought to get the work out required to strengthen my right forarm enough so that it did not cramp on long rides so I bought all the following stuff and it relieved more than 1/2 the throttle pressure on the flipper.
Go to a DOO Microfiche like this one...
http://www.cyclepartsnation.com/page...6/default.aspx
select "SKI DOO" and "SKI DOO" (again)from the drop down menus.
then select 1999
then select "Formula"
then select Formula Deluxe 500 LC/583/670
then select "02 fuel system"
Look at about the center of that page.
You need parts...
one ea # 2 SKU: 572028600 Throttle Handle Housing $13.99
one ea # 3 SKU: 572056900 Heat Throttle Handle ***'y $45.59
one ea # 11 SKU: 414440800 Set Screw $2.54
one ea # 8 SKU: 732601143 Flanged Screw M4 $2.40
Remove the throttle cable, remove your grip, then you pull your old trigger assy and trigger mount off your handlebars, slide out the kill switch.
I had to cut the plug off of the new thumb heater and cut the wires from your old thumb heater near the plug (Unless you know how to remove the connectors out from inside the old plug and replace them with the ones out of the new plug)
then just splice them color for color.
slide the new assy back on the bars and slide your old kill swich back in.
reinstall your grip, Re-install the throttle cable and your done.
It's really a pretty easy job.
It's your riding style. We only feel the pain on the first ride of the season or on long sit down trail ride. Stand up and see how the change in position makes you forget about it. Also keep your flipper mount loose so you can rotate it up or down to the comfort zone from sit down to stand up riding.
Or buy a E-Tech.
Or buy a E-Tech.
Actually a shorter spring is stiffer. Think about it each coil needs to bend "x" amount to have an overall crush of "y" distance. Now you are asking less coils to move the same "y" distance so each coil has to be compressed more. The answer would be to have more coils of thinner gauge wire.
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decarls
Member
I think I understand what you're saying but you may need to explain it a little more for me.
In my mind I compare it to a torsion spring type of garage opener... as you tighen the spring it takes more effort to get the final wrap than the one previous. therefore, if you had one less wrap wouldn't that mean it took less effort?
i'm probably looking at this all wrong.
thanks
I cut a coil or two off my wife's 600 when we bought it. It definately helped, just don't over do it. Having not enough spring tension would be a bad deal.
I think I understand what you're saying but you may need to explain it a little more for me.
In my mind I compare it to a torsion spring type of garage opener... as you tighen the spring it takes more effort to get the final wrap than the one previous. therefore, if you had one less wrap wouldn't that mean it took less effort?
i'm probably looking at this all wrong.
thanks
When you cut the spring, you will now have to initially stretch it farther to reach the same distance or your throttle will not go to idle. Now when you crush it to full throttle, each coil has to move farther from it's rest position. Your theory could have merrit if you were just getting rid of the pre-load but this could also be done more efficiently by a spring that is the same gauge and overall wire length but just has closer spaces between each coil when relaxed.
try this link http://www.dootalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=273337&hl=throttle+to+stiff in this post it shows how to move the spring to a different location by unwrapping the spring aprox. 1/2 a coil therefore making throttle pull easier.
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SilverGriz
Well-known member
Seriously...maybe you should start working out if the throttle is too stiff. Next thing you'll be complaining about it being too hard to pull the rope.
Oh wait...you probably already thought of that and got the electric start.
Oh wait...you probably already thought of that and got the electric start.
I think doo made them so stiff because they had so many throttles sticking wide open. Cutting the spring will help, did it on my motorcycle, you are basicly getting rid of the preload that teth-air said. The etec 600 are way easier, probably because there is no fuel in the throttle body which causes the frezzing
the old 99 summit was really stiff, i cut 6 or 7 coils off the spring on that baby and i thought it made the throttle quite a bit easier to push. just my 2 cents.
