4 stroke oil
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mobile one full syn 0w30 and the reason is i can get it at walmart cant stand the yammi dealer here
I get my full synthetic 0-30w at walmart also, cheapest in town.
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MotoPsycho
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0-30 Mobil1 full syn
Amsoil 0w-40 syn.....dunno why you don't like it. However, I don't think you can go wrong with Amsoil or Mobile 1. Yamaha oils are good, but they have shown to break down out of grade before these two. If Rotella made a 0w-30/40 I'd buy it and change it often.
All those oils don't meet yamaha's specification of api SG, jaso MA , almost all brands do make oils that meet the specification but none of the car motor oils do. I run Lucas motorcycle oil 0-40w.
I run Motal 0W40 synthetic designed for sleds...in my MCX MTX Nytro
O' contrare!
From the Amsoil website:AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke® PowerSports Synthetic Motor Oil is recommended for four-stroke engines and transmissions on two- or four-stroke powered applications. It is an all climate/all season oil that replaces 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30, 10W-30 and 10W-40 oils for ATVs, UTVs, snowmobiles and other power sports equipment. Manufacturers include Polaris®, Honda®, Yamaha®, Ski-Doo®, Can-Am® (Bombardier®), Suzuki®, Kawasaki® and Arctic Cat®.
• API SL/CF, SJ, SH, SG
• JASO MA/MA2
• ISO-L-EMA2
AND:
Excellent For Transmissions
AMSOIL Formula 4-Stroke® PowerSports Oil is wet clutch compatible and contains no friction modifiers, making it ideal for both two- and four-stroke ATV transmissions. The friction modifier-free formulation is designed to prevent clutch slippage, delivering maximum torque and power to the wheels – a critical feature for towing or high-horsepower engines. AMSOIL AFF meets the frictional requirements of JASO MA/MA2.
And more info about the API ratings:
“S”- SERVICE CLASSIFICATIONS FOR GASOLINE ENGINES
SH- For 1994 Gasoline Engine Service
Classification SH was adopted in 1992 and recommended for gasoline engines in passenger cars and light trucks starting in 1993 model year. This category supercedes the performance requirements of API SG specification for 1989-1992 models, which is now obsolete. Applications that call for an API service classification SG can use the SH specification. The specification addresses issues with deposit control, oxidation, corrosion, rust and wear and replaces.
SJ- For 1997 Gasoline Engine Service
Classification SJ was adopted in 1996 and recommended for gasoline engines in passenger cars and light trucks starting in 1997 model year. Applications specifying API SH can use the newer API SJ service classification. Note that where applicable certain letters in the sequence will be skipped to prevent confusion with other standards. In this case, SI was skipped since industrial oils are currently rated according to SI classifications.
SL- For 2001 Gasoline Engine Service
Recommended for gasoline engines in passenger cars and light trucks starting in July 2001. SL oils are engineered to provide improved high temperature deposit control and lower oil consumption. Applications specifying API SJ can use the new API SL service classification. Note that some SL rated oils may also meet the latest ILSAC specification and/or qualify as energy conserving. SL is the latest specification.
SM- For 2004 and newer Gasoline Engine Service Automotive Engines (Current Spec)
This specification was introduced in Nov. 2004. SM oils are engineered to provide improved oxidation resistance, improved deposit and wear protection and improved low temperature performance. Note that some SM rated motor oils may also meet the current ILSAC specification.
More information in a clearly displayed format for API service ratings. The SG rating is obsolete, and current ratings far surpass the requirements for SG.
http://www.upmpg.com/motor_oil_rate_gas.htm
http://www.upmpg.com/motor_oil_rate_gas.htm
Tried to see what all Royal Purple was about. Couldn't find a 0w-30/40 on their website. I did find a 0w-10 on their racing oils. I would DEFINITELY steer away from this, as you will need much better range of temperature protection, especially with a turbo. What exactly is the line of oil you're using? Looks like that company feels if it's a motorcycle or a racing application it's mostly going to be a 2 stroke.
I think with the cold starts and temps we see while snowmobiling you would be doing yourself a disservice using a 10w oil.
Okay, I finally see a 0w-40 in the automotive line.....very little info on it though. I would dig up some more spec's on it before using it. All it says is "API certified"....but doesn't list the service grade. To each his own, I suppose.
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on my 2009 caddy cts-v supercharged it says to run mobile 1 full syn if they recomend to run that oil inthis motor and porch i think its a pretty good oil for 5.80 a quart at wallyworld
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MotoPsycho
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Thanks Fella...
No prob.....oil threads are like comparing sled brands....people have their favorites, and it's hard to talk them out of it. And that's fine, 'cause it's a preference. I like Amsoil AND Mobile 1, I don't think you can go wrong with either of them for high performance. In my truck I like Valvoline, and in my motorcycle I like Shell Rotella synthetic (because it's a great oil that's cheap enough to change often, so I can keep it clean with the wet clutch).
Most consumers don't understand oil, and the companies out there take advantage of the consumer's ignorance to turn into sales....and it works. I don't claim to be an expert by ANY stretch of the imagination (see the first sentence of this post)....
Buy what you've proven to yourself to be worth it, and ride!!! (just don't make negative claims against oils that others use especially if you're wrong)
Thanks Butta i just wanted everyone to be aware that automotive oils meet the api standard but don't meet the service standard DC
This won't answer all the questions, but it clears some up:
http://www.upmpg.com/pdf/api_motoroil_guide.pdf
I think the "CD" refers to the commercial equvalent grade oils? Not sure, kinda unclear on that....what do you interpret from the above link?
Edit: After a little further research, the API IS the service classifcation standard. If an oil has both an "S" and a "C" classification, it meets both of those standards. In other words, you can have one formula of oil do both diesel (Commercial classification) and gasoline (Service classification) duties. We are more concerned with the "S" as we don't care about the sulfur resistance to our oils....the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) is the institution that designates the viscosity of the oil (0w-40, for instance). They have nothing to do with the QUALITY nor the intended purpose, merely the properties of flow vs. temperature.
Thanks for this thread!! I've learned a lot myself!!
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I like the Mobil 1 full synthetic 0/40.
