when we first left i was following one guy and the 2 moto almost washed out several time in front of me on the trail,,,
We were on 6 inches of snow, with ice underneath. I was behind you, and yours was sideways as well. That was the "first turn fun"
about 1 mile into it a rider on 2moto came off the trail and hit a tree pretty hard,, glad he was ok,,, ,,,
He rode all day without brakes- he mis-installed his brake line the night before.
brett was an awesome rider and made his machine work well, but we both agreed that the explorer had an easier learning curve,,,,,
Thanks. I have a lot of time on snow bikes. I agree that the Explorer has a lighter steering feel at slow trail speeds on packed trails. Read my earlier comments in this thread. "Learning curve" is different- I ran through all the Explorer performance in 15 minutes. Really, there was nothing else it could do. Even with the "sidehill kit wheels" I could not rail a powder turn, or even think of going down a hill, laying the bars into the hill, and going back up. I could not rip through the powdery whoops (really tried) without over-running the stock dirt bike shock. Sorry.
but people all over the county tried the husaberg on trails,, and never bogged in 4th, not sure where he got that, in fact i was in 5th following bret down a nice clean trail and saw him ragdoll down the trail 50 ft ,,, i asked him what happend, he said it was his suspension was not adjusting to the whoops... i was glad to see he was ok...
I took the Berg as fast as it would go in third, hit 4th, and the bit (6 inches) of pow we had on the edges of the trail would bog it down. I did not go faster down the center of the trail because of the whoops.
That wreck did hurt... for clarification, Mike and I had a drag race, (Mike-650 Berg, me 450 Suz) and I ran it up to 5th and just kept it open. The race was not even close, but not even either- Mike is much bigger than me, but he was on 61hp, and I was on 52hp. Even on identical bikes/riders, the 2Moto will walk away from the Explorer in a drag race.
Also, the RadiX rear suspension is adjustable via "clickers" just like your dirt bike. No bolts/tools to get out. I clicked the small shock (front track travel) to full hard for the powder earlier in the day, and did not click it back with my thumb on the trail ride out. So my wreck would be 90% rider oops, and 10% shock locked out... yep, I wrecked, but I know how fast an RMZ goes in 5th!
so who's system is better? neither! they are both good for what they are intended for, they both rock, and they will be around for awhile, they are not the same product , and both have pro's and cons when compared, and both have a learning curve . when you master what they can do, and know the limits, you will be amazed where you have gone.
Here's where we disagree, of course. The key here is your statement "they are both good for what they are intended for"
The RadiX is intended for those that want to rail a sidehill, carve a powder turn, drop a cornice, rip through the bumps, write your name on a sidehill, or stop and start without tipping over. When you're ready for performance, you're ready for the RadiX.
all in all,,, the the explorer is the machine i like to ride, and for 3 grand, you could not get a better deal ... and when summer comes, you can hit the dunes, hills, swamps, or just trail ride...
Price comparison is a great topic. 3 grand, plus $300 if you want to try sidehilling (add 8 more wheels), plus $300 if you want to bring fuel (you rode your berg instead of your nitrous RMZ because you couldn't bring fuel) and $700+ for a new rear shock for your dirt bike, when you put your tires back on. Riding snow hard sacks out stock springs, and can blow your stock shock. Up until 6 years ago, we also used stock shocks/springs- and blew lots of them.
Now you're at $4300, your performance is still what it was, and you've added lots more weight.
so lets see what people think who have rode both for any amount of time.. would love to hear from you if your out there
Here's a few "opinions" sent in via email:
From Oregon: "Tracked up some snow today on my Radix, it was great. Heading up in the morning for a long ride. The guy who bought a boevin kit is not a happy camper, he thinks that he is going to take it back. That thing is a submarine with tons of drag!"
From Canada: "What a pile!!! Kitted on a brand new 09 450. the first day the snow was bad but on the road he couldnt come close to keeping up, and when the whoops came into play, it was a joke at best.
The next day the snow was wetter and made for some great snowbikeing..
for the 2moto. the explorer could not even go.. no kidding.. the track was digging in and pulling the motor down so bad the owner thought the brake was stuck. We adjusted the track forward to where there is no suspension and he was able to move forward, but as soon as we got to the first hill he was done.. I sent him back to the truck, while myself and James kept riding and had a great day on some tight trails..The Explorer is a complete piece of crap.."
As the season progresses and the snow gets firmer, the performance differences will be even greater.
