2023 Summit vs. Lynx weights

[NHRoadking]

I had tried to find the weights on the 2023 Lynx sleds vs. the 2023 Summits. Here it is, albeit not in time for spring order this year.

Summits are definitely lighter:



Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 2.5 850 E-TEC - 454 pounds Summit X 154 429 pounds
Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC - 456 pounds Summit Expert 154 430 pounds

Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 476 pounds. Summit Expert 154 449 pounds
Shredder DS 4100 (165) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 480 pounds. Summit Expert 165 456 pounds

Shredder RE 3700 (146) x 2.5 850 E-TEC - 471 pounds Summit SP 146 447 pounds

Shredder RE 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 496 pounds Summit Expert 154 449 pounds

 

[10003514]

Wow the shredder re turbo is 496lbs. That’s insane, don’t really care how good it’s suspension is not worth that weight penalty. Nice that the Ds is 20lbs lighter but those Lynx are chunky on the scale.

 

[Driver]

Great post! Where did you find this information?

For Shredder RE the correct comparison would be the Freeride in my opinion.

Seems to be that new Expert 850 Turbo R weighs basically the same as my previous n.a. 850 2020 154" expert which is lightest sled I have ever owned. Great work from doo! Power to weigh ratio is gonna be crazy.

 

[turboless terry]

I had tried to find the weights on the 2023 Lynx sleds vs. the 2023 Summits. Here it is, albeit not in time for spring order this year.

Summits are definitely lighter:



Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 2.5 850 E-TEC - 454 pounds Summit X 154 429 pounds
Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC - 456 pounds Summit Expert 154 430 pounds

Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 476 pounds. Summit Expert 154 449 pounds
Shredder DS 4100 (165) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 480 pounds. Summit Expert 165 456 pounds

Shredder RE 3700 (146) x 2.5 850 E-TEC - 471 pounds Summit SP 146 447 pounds

Shredder RE 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 496 pounds Summit Expert 154 449 pounds

I actually don't buy some of these weights such as 47 pounds heavier for re. Basically a heavier suspension with extra wheels and rail braces plus bigger heavier shocks. Re has 15 wide track that should be a fuzz lighter. That should offset heavier skis. Not buying that it has a 47 pound suspension setup.

 

[Dworek]

Almost hard to

I actually don't buy some of these weights such as 47 pounds heavier for re. Basically a heavier suspension with extra wheels and rail braces plus bigger heavier shocks. Re has 15 wide track that should be a fuzz lighter. That should offset heavier skis. Not buying that it has a 47 pound suspension setup.

I agree, it can't be that much heavier. The 2018 Boondocker DS with the first Radien chassis was said to be 205kg, thats 252lbs. The new chassis is supposed to be 9kg/20lbs lighter. In the teori, the weight difference should only be skis, skid, and suspension compared to the Summit. Maby some few grams in the hood.

 

[turboless terry]

I could believe 20 pounds but not 47. Someone is full of sh!t

 

[Betterview]

The example where there was 47 pound difference was a turbo against a non turbo. Figure about 24 for the turbo and something a little over 20 for the heavier chassis and suspension and you are there.

 

[Turbo Thompson]

I actually don't buy some of these weights such as 47 pounds heavier for re. Basically a heavier suspension with extra wheels and rail braces plus bigger heavier shocks. Re has 15 wide track that should be a fuzz lighter. That should offset heavier skis. Not buying that it has a 47 pound suspension setup.

Your forgetting about stickers and color weights. Red tends to be a pretty heavy color.

 

[turboless terry]

The example where there was 47 pound difference was a turbo against a non turbo. Figure about 24 for the turbo and something a little over 20 for the heavier chassis and suspension and you are there.

Pretty sure doo was claiming 449 for 154 expert turbo because i thought na was around 430. Just looked it up and those are the weights so i think that 496 number is bs

 

[Frankthetank79]

Almost hard to

I agree, it can't be that much heavier. The 2018 Boondocker DS with the first Radien chassis was said to be 205kg, thats 252lbs. The new chassis is supposed to be 9kg/20lbs lighter. In the teori, the weight difference should only be skis, skid, and suspension compared to the Summit. Maby some few grams in the hood.

205kg dosent equal 252lbs... 451.9lbs

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[Dworek]

205kg dosent equal 252lbs... 451.9lbs

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My bad, yes i should be a 4 and not a 2.

 

[turboless terry]

205kg dosent equal 252lbs... 451.9lbs

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Pretty well knew that's what he meant or should have

 

[rockinmranch]

I had tried to find the weights on the 2023 Lynx sleds vs. the 2023 Summits. Here it is, albeit not in time for spring order this year.

Summits are definitely lighter:



Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 2.5 850 E-TEC - 454 pounds Summit X 154 429 pounds
Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC - 456 pounds Summit Expert 154 430 pounds

Shredder DS 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 476 pounds. Summit Expert 154 449 pounds
Shredder DS 4100 (165) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 480 pounds. Summit Expert 165 456 pounds

Shredder RE 3700 (146) x 2.5 850 E-TEC - 471 pounds Summit SP 146 447 pounds

Shredder RE 3900 (154) x 3.0 850 E-TEC Turbo R - 496 pounds Summit Expert 154 449 pounds

What is the source of these weights? Most everything is close to the same from the foot wells forward. Can the weight of the suspension and the tunnel being a little beefier on the lynx be 20 plus pounds heavier? The lynx track is 15" wide which should be lighter than the expert. The tracks appear to be the same 3" design on the expert and the DS. The lynx suspension should carry around a little less snow in the deep. Does anyone know how much heavier the lynx suspension is? I have a feeling that there are not enough DS 4100 prototypes around for anyone to have an accurate answer to that.

 

[turboless terry]

What is the source of these weights? Most everything is close to the same from the foot wells forward. Can the weight of the suspension and the tunnel being a little beefier on the lynx be 20 plus pounds heavier? The lynx track is 15" wide which should be lighter than the expert. The tracks appear to be the same 3" design on the expert and the DS. The lynx suspension should carry around a little less snow in the deep. Does anyone know how much heavier the lynx suspension is? I have a feeling that there are not enough DS 4100 prototypes around for anyone to have an accurate answer to that.

The lynx tunnel should be the same. They talked about thinner walled material on it just like the expert. I could see a couple pounds heavier per ski and the rest pretty similar for the ds.
Thought i seen a video of a 22 expert turbo rtr at 569 and 22 lynx 4100 na at 562. Doo claims 19 pounds heavier for turbo. That would make the 22 12 pounds heavier than a na and they claim they lost 20 for 23. Expert lost about 8 so that should make them about even i would think. I could see the re being 10 or 15 heavier with more wheels, bigger shocks with resis, rail braces and probably heavier stuff in rear axle.

 

[rockinmranch]

Just found this. This was the Lynx boondocker weights from last year. If what they are advertising is true. RE 35 pounds lighter than last year and DS 20 pounds lighter then it looks like Lynx and Ski Doo weights are very similar for comparable models. Within 5 pounds?

 

[sno*jet]

how do the skidframe weights compare anybody ever weighed them? That lynx skid might be the next design they all eventually go after, no?

 

[jcjc1]

maybe but i'd think if that were the case then brp wouldn't have changed 90% of the parts on the G5 skids.

 

[toms]

22 Lynx skid 16 lbs heavier than 22 Summit skid.

 

[sno*jet]

^Dang thats significant. the snowtrax tester guy sure talked up that lynx skid. "aftermarket skids dont even compare..."

 

[10003514]

Lynx has dry weights on their website spec sheets now, original numbers are correct.

RE 3900 Turbo- 496lbs
DS 3900 Turbo- 476lbs
Expert 154 Turbo- 449lbs

Lynx are beasts and I see no reason to take a 47lbs weight penalty for an RE over an Expert Turbo for Western North American riding.

Interesting comparison is the Gen5 Expert turbo and Polaris Boost Khaos. Advertised spec sheet is 0.5lbs weight difference. It will be inserting getting these sleds on the scales fuelled up.