Every brand has a 2019 thread except yamaha, no one even seems to get excited about their releases on here anymore . Anything new this yr or BNG?
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The SW is very tempting for sure. But watching riding buddies not as tired at the end of the day is starting to get to me. Especially since I'm the oldest out of the group.
I read this a lot on forum sites but doesn't seem to happen when I ride. I just spent 4 back to back days riding in deep snow at Seeley Lake, 12 hr drive home, back to work the next day drilling teeth and played two hours of basketball that night, I'm feeling great. Maybe I'm just in shape, but I doubt that's it. When I ride I let the snowmobile do the work. You can ride your sled or you can let the sled ride you. I prefer to be the one doing the riding, and I'm not just going up and down a hill all day either. This is a big misconception people say about 4S. When a 2S friend gets stuck I'm usually the first one there to help. If it's on a steep hill I can park the SW within feet from them, while other like to put their sled in reverse as the descend from the hill. Navigating through trees is not difficult with a SW, I just don't understand why people say this. I'm not going to convince anyone and I'm not trying, this is just my opinion.
I'm told I should feel more tired after I ride and now I'm told only Bret could ride a 4S and not be tired. I rode yesterday after work and I'm not tired, maybe it would be even less if I had been on a 2S, but I don't know how I could feel less tired then I do right now. We should go out and ride sometime.
A good friend of mine road sleds with Bret for a day. The only sled the cat dealer had they could loan him was an 1100 XF 141. He did demonstrations on that thing, and everyone struggled to stay with him. I seen on the gopro footage. It was insane. I'm sure he isn't the only guy that can do it, but like I said, he is the only one I've heard of.
I know you have posted up videos in the past. Do you mind sharing that again?
I would love to ride with you.. you are really really far away from me though. I'm planning on going to Carl Kuster's camp next winter, maybe you could join? I'm kind of doubting you, but at the same time you sound really good too.
Sorry for hi-jacking...
Judging by the teaser video, Yamaha is looking to impress drag racers?? With old tech?.. I'm not sure if they will even change anything in the mountain segment in 19. Maybe the mono-rail will make an appearance in 2020... just like how the drop and roll chain case had to wait a year. I think if they do anything, it'll be a special edition with more horsepower.. All it takes is a reprogramming of the ecu after all.
Keep in mind, the contract with Cat is up after the 2019 model year.
It's a niche market. But I have to say it's more about riding style and throttle control then brute strength to ride the 4S. I have a heavily modded 2013 M1100T, which weighs within 2 lbs of my 2017 King Cat (Sidewinder with different clutches and skis). I'm 50, 235 lbs in my skivvis, so not a gym rat by any means. Also require surgery on both shoulders and my left knee, so the mileage is racking up. But I ride with a group of guys that include a sidekick Axys 174, a sidekick Axys 163 (both running 50/50 Vp111&91), a Doo XM 163 and an 850 165, and finally two Cats - one is a 925 162", the other a 17 Mountain Cat. I've no problems riding the King Cat for 4 days straight AFTER I set up the suspension, which was poorly set up from factory. And although the 2S's are a bit lighter, two guys in my group are buying 4S for the upcoming season...so they can't be that bad.It's kind of weird. I'm 5'11" 175 pounds and I sit at a desk all day every day so I am in pretty poor shape with weak muscles etc. So I totally understand when I choose a 408 pound sled that only gets 110 HP at 8,000 feet. I'm a weakling, and kind of a lightweight, so it matches me better.
Where are the dudes who are 6'2" 240 lbs and actually work out and have some decent muscles and some decent stamina? Wouldn't those guys easily prefer a sled that gets 180 HP at 8,000 feet elevation even if it weighs 525 pounds?
What am I missing? Are you guys all a bunch of weaklings like me? I really thought the sidewinder was going to be the belle of the ball with all the big strong fit snowmobilers. Where was I wrong?
It's a niche market. But I have to say it's more about riding style and throttle control then brute strength to ride the 4S. I have a heavily modded 2013 M1100T, which weighs within 2 lbs of my 2017 King Cat (Sidewinder with different clutches and skis). I'm 50, 235 lbs in my skivvis, so not a gym rat by any means. Also require surgery on both shoulders and my left knee, so the mileage is racking up. But I ride with a group of guys that include a sidekick Axys 174, a sidekick Axys 163 (both running 50/50 Vp111&91), a Doo XM 163 and an 850 165, and finally two Cats - one is a 925 162", the other a 17 Mountain Cat. I've no problems riding the King Cat for 4 days straight AFTER I set up the suspension, which was poorly set up from factory. And although the 2S's are a bit lighter, two guys in my group are buying 4S for the upcoming season...so they can't be that bad.
But we've been blessed with good snow this season, so maybe I'd feel differently on crusty hardpack.